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Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be a bit more sympathetic if this was not about a trillion dollar company who poached some employees rather than engage in a licensing deal.

It's really easy to avoid your employees being "poached": treat them well, and pay them better.

that doesn't work when Apple can pay them multiples "more well".

the sensible thing would be to license the tech

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

#22
I live in a rural area. My old fashioned doctor said to test oxygen levels, all you need to do is pinch your index finger nail down until it goes white. Then when you let go, if it goes back to pink right away, you're good. If it takes more than a few seconds, you're not good.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Apple was in a patent dispute over this feature with Massimo. Their workaround is to calculate blood oxygen on the iPhone, using the sensors from Apple Watch. The Apple Watch hardware is otherwise the same. The back of the watch shines light of a specific wavelength into your skin and measures the reflected light. Heart rate sensing uses green (525 nm) and infrared (850–940 nm) light; blood oxygen sensing added a red…

Phenomenal that the patent is only violated by doing it with the watch cpu but not by funneling the data to a separate cpu. The surest sign that it's a bullshit patent.

They're all like that. Patents are pretty specific.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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I live in a rural area. My old fashioned doctor said to test oxygen levels, all you need to do is pinch your index finger nail down until it goes white. Then when you let go, if it goes back to pink right away, you're good. If it takes more than a few seconds, you're not good.

That's the capillary refill test which tests circulation and perfusion. Doesn't really tell you anything about oxygen levels.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

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Just offloading the analysis to the phone is extremely funny. It also seems like a pretty obvious solution, so I wonder if it was delayed by legal analysis and they only just decided it was likely to hold up in court.

Apple says:

> This update was enabled by a recent U.S. Customs ruling.

I can't find the ruling in question, though, so I'm not sure what they mean.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

#27
I have it on my garmin and it seems pretty useless. My oxygen level while I sleep has more to do with how tightly I'm wearing it that night than anything else. It also drain the battery fast so I just disabled it.

I have a real finger-based one bought during COVID that I trust more.

Re: Blood oxygen monitoring returning to Apple Watch in the US

#29
In my experience, the Apple Watch blood oxygen monitoring was horribly inaccurate. It would report wildly variable results, often telling me that I had a blood oxygen level of 80% (which, if true, would indicate that I should be getting myself to an emergency room ASAP).

Regular pulse oxygen meters are cheap and reliable.

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