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US Wholesale Inflation Rises by Most in 3 Years

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Re: US Wholesale Inflation Rises by Most in 3 Years

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The surge in services costs seems to be a bit of a surprise (?): > Services inflation provided much of the push higher, moving 1.1% higher in July for the largest gain also since March 2022. Trade services margins rose 2%, coming amid ongoing developments in President Donald Trump’s tariff implementations. > In addition, 30% of the increase in services came from a 3.8% increase in machinery and equipment wholesaling.…

The current policies seem almost designed for that. Choke real growth with unpredictable tariffs and print lots of money.

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In November 2024, inflation was at 2.7%. Inflation for the whole year was 2.9%. The public was so incensed that they threw out the government.

We all know Trump voters didn't give two shits about the price of eggs. That's not why they vote for him.

They are voting for chaos, because the establishment in the Republican and Democratic parties simply do not care about the everyday people.

As an environmentalist, I essentially have no party, and so while I hate Donald Trump, I understand exactly why he was voted into office.

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Perhaps English is not your native language. It at best comes across that many of the 900 are surrounding China and at worst that the 900 is referring to China.

> > Our main problems involve under the table unreported to the public military expenditures. If you look at a map of our military bases, we have many bordering China. “Many” could be dozens or hundreds or over half. It’s poorly phrased to the point of being meaningless. > > I think our total number is close to 900. Total in the world.

Glad you read it that way. The OP wrote it with a narrative of China which is already perplexing since we are mostly talking about Korean and Japanese bases but framing it as around China. You could read it either way. It’s poorly worded and click baity.

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Are there inflation indicators that aren’t government controlled? Don’t think anything coming out of trump influenced bodies is worth the paper it’s on anymore

What you really need to understand about inflation, is that we've had particularly exceptionally low long-term inflation in America for the last 50 years, outside of stagflation in the '70s.

And this is all enabled by globalization and global trade. Globalization fundamentally provides arbitrage for two things. Labor costs, and environmental regulation.

Because there were a lot of poor desperate countries that would build your stuff for near slave labor conditions.

In particular, China of course. But China has now passed through its phase of poor desperation. It is now an urbanized economy. So of a lot of other poor desperate countries aren't quite as poor desperate.

Globalization is fundamentally enabled by the US Navy and US military supremacy guaranteeing shipping trade on the oceans.

This has not been the historical Norm. It's actually historical anomaly caused by the power vacuum of world war II, and secondarily by the fact that the Cold war was between the US and maritime power and Russia, who are effectively landlocked.

Some scholars term China as a continental power, especially cuz of their history of invasion like the Mongols, but unlike Russia, China has a very large coastline with a lot of ports that aren't locked in by Arctic ice.

They are a hybrid Continental and a maritime power, and based on their shipbuilding, their ambitions are to become a maritime power.

This combined with American lack of enthusiasm for maintaining this global order, likely means that globalization will come to an end.

And that means onshoring production back from China.

We'll see if this actually happens, but that is the trend long-term.

And that involves a huge amount of switching costs, which essentially is going to be inflation.

I'm certainly not going to sit here and say that Trump's economic policies are correct. Of course, the proper way to handle a transition of reonshoring our production from our previous 50 years of globalization would be gradual and controlled.

Not a bunch of stupid chaotic tariff policies.

But essentially what Trump is doing is in line with everything I've described.

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Tariffs affect local product prices in a lot of ways. 1) They reduce competitive pressure so local producers can raise prices without losing market share (that is the actual point ) 2) They increase local demand for production capacity and labor in general, driving up costs even in sectors that are completely unaffected by the tariffs themselves

McDonald's was never sourcing chicken for their chicken nuggets from outside the country.

Yeah, but that does not really matter; everyone else that imported meat (or feed ) now competes for McDonalds suppliers, which means higher prices.

You can also expect to pay more for labor itself, because every bit of industry that you bring back (or scale up, at least) with tariffs competes with the essentially fixed labor pool, and there was not a lot of slack (unemployment) to start with.

Re: US Wholesale Inflation Rises by Most in 3 Years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tariffs affect local product prices in a lot of ways. 1) They reduce competitive pressure so local producers can raise prices without losing market share (that is the actual point ) 2) They increase local demand for production capacity and labor in general, driving up costs even in sectors that are completely unaffected by the tariffs themselves

McDonald's was never sourcing chicken for their chicken nuggets from outside the country.

Tariffs raise the price in tangential ways. Tariffs on Chinese steel means US chicken wire producers switch to more expensive US sources. Increased demand for US sources make it even more expensive. Farmers buy the more expensive chicken wire, passing the added expense to McDonalds, which passes it on to you.

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It's nice to have agreed-upon, citable facts though, even if only so that voters know who's full of crap during a debate. When the next R candidate says that Trump handled inflation beautifully, it's important to be able to point to an authoritative source that shows that that claim is BS.

The majority of R voters don't care about authoritative sources. In fact, authority when it comes to information is a negative in their view, based on all available evidence (ie elections over the past few decades). We're well past the point that debates matter.

R voters say you can't trust mainstream media and then cheer when this administration fills it's ranks with mainstream media people from FOX, including the head of defense, top D.C. Prosecutors, etc.

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> Over the years I have read a few articles or blogs Without linking the blogs or articles it’s hard to say much. Inflation is a topic that attracts a lot of quackery. There are a lot of blogs and websites that go viral from time to time with claims that the “true” inflation number is dramatically higher. There is a quick reality check you should run whenever you encounter these claims: Take the claimed inflation num…

At the risk of defending quackery, most claims about inflation being inaccurate involve the changes made to CPI estimations in 1996. I'll go as far as to say I've never heard any claim that is inaccurate going back to the 1970s.

Still, if the "real" inflation rate was ~10% starting in 1996 then a $5 burger today supposedly cost ~$0.30 in 1996.

A lot of soda vending machines will sell a 20oz bottle of soda for ~$2.50. Were soda vending machines selling bottles of soda for $0.15 back then? No.

Re: US Wholesale Inflation Rises by Most in 3 Years

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You mean like this one? http://emilysquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/EmilysQuo...

Timeless, ha ha.

If value was actually created every time before it was distributed to shareholders, it wouldn't be nearly as bleak as when the value is instead rapidly extracted from a long-term reservoir to make the numbers go up.
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