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Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by Chris2048 »

pllbnk wrote: post #75
ramanh wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The company cut all ties with Belarus more than three years ago, and all employees relocated to Europe.

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It looks like many of them now live outside Belarus; should have changed their names, and/or fired any slavic nationals?

* Dmitry Gurski; CEO

* Tamara Orlova; CFO

* Anna Klepchukova; Chief Medical Officer

* Kate Romanovskaia; Chief Brand & Communications Officer

* Joëlle Barthel; Director of Brand Marketing

* Nick Lisher (British); Chief Marketing Officer

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

#102

Post by maxehmookau »

No ifs, no buts. Stuff like this deserves ruinous fines for its executives.

Cycle data in the hands of many country's authorities is outright dangerous. If you're storing healthcare data, it should require IN BIG RED LETTERS an explicit opt-in, every single time, when that data leaves your device.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by [deleted] »

1oooqooq wrote: post #94
gruez wrote: post #72

As much as I don't like facebook as a company, I think the jury reached the wrong decision here. If you read the complaint[1], "eavesdropped on and/or recorded their conversations by using an electronic device" basically amounted to "flo using facebook's sdk and sending custom events to it" (page 12, point 49). I agree that flo should be raked over the coals for sending this information to facebook in the first place…

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Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by Chris2048 »

ivanmontillam wrote: post #48
pbiggar wrote: post #4

Meta truly is the worst company. In almost everything Meta does, it truly makes the most user-hostile decisions, awful decision, every single time. Cambridge Analytica The Rohingya Genocide Suppressing Palestinian content during a genocide Damage to teenage (and adult) mental health Anyway, I mention this because some friends are building a social media alternative to Instagram: https://upscrolled.com , aiming to be…

Your comment started very useful, then it became spam. Great way to lose goodwill.

Is posting a self-made alternative to meta not consistent with the rest of the post, even actively promoting the vibe?

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

#105

Post by zahlman »

HeavyStorm wrote: post #77
gruez wrote: post #72

As much as I don't like facebook as a company, I think the jury reached the wrong decision here. If you read the complaint[1], "eavesdropped on and/or recorded their conversations by using an electronic device" basically amounted to "flo using facebook's sdk and sending custom events to it" (page 12, point 49). I agree that flo should be raked over the coals for sending this information to facebook in the first place…

That's why in these cases you'd prefer a judgment without a jury. Technical cases like this will always confuse jurors, who can't be expected to understand details about sdk, data sharing, APIs etc. On the other hand, in a number of highprofile tech cases, you can see judges learning and discussing engineering in a deeper level.

> Technical cases like this will always confuse jurors... On the other hand, in a number of highprofile tech cases, you can see judges learning and discussing engineering in a deeper level.

Not to be ageist, but I find this highly counterintuitive.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by deadbabe »

bluGill wrote: post #97
gruez wrote: post #72

As much as I don't like facebook as a company, I think the jury reached the wrong decision here. If you read the complaint[1], "eavesdropped on and/or recorded their conversations by using an electronic device" basically amounted to "flo using facebook's sdk and sending custom events to it" (page 12, point 49). I agree that flo should be raked over the coals for sending this information to facebook in the first place…

I would say you have a responsibility to ensure you are getting legal data. you don't buy stolen things. That is meta has a reponsibility to ensure that they are not partnering with crooks. Flo gets the largest blame but meta needs to show they did their part to ensure this didn't happen. (I would not call terms of use enough unless they can show they make you understand it)

If Flo accepted the terms of use, then it means they understand it.

Really the only blame here should be on Flo.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

#107

Post by nikanj »

gruez wrote: post #72

As much as I don't like facebook as a company, I think the jury reached the wrong decision here. If you read the complaint[1], "eavesdropped on and/or recorded their conversations by using an electronic device" basically amounted to "flo using facebook's sdk and sending custom events to it" (page 12, point 49). I agree that flo should be raked over the coals for sending this information to facebook in the first place…

Suing Facebook instead of Flo makes perfect sense, because Facebook has much more money. Plus juries are more likely to hate FB than a random menstruation company.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by zahlman »

1oooqooq wrote: post #94
gruez wrote: post #72

As much as I don't like facebook as a company, I think the jury reached the wrong decision here. If you read the complaint[1], "eavesdropped on and/or recorded their conversations by using an electronic device" basically amounted to "flo using facebook's sdk and sending custom events to it" (page 12, point 49). I agree that flo should be raked over the coals for sending this information to facebook in the first place…

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> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

> Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by throwaway290 »

cnity wrote: post #41
throwaway290 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they do then is create an app where location is necessary, make that app spin up a localhost server, then add js to facebook and every site with a like button to phone that localhost and basically deanon everyone.

How could this possibly work without port forwarding?

It happens on the same device. No forwarding necessary. And it was documented to happen, the story was on HN

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by zahlman »

everdrive wrote: post #10

Don't use apps. It's a simple as that. 95% of the time they are not worth the incredible privacy invasion they impose on users.

Even beyond that, I expect software developers to prove to me that an Internet connection is necessary for whatever it is they're trying to do.
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