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Pardon my ignorance, but can't you just solve this by disabling location permissions, etc for a given app?
What they do then is create an app where location is necessary, make that app spin up a localhost server, then add js to facebook and every site with a like button to phone that localhost and basically deanon everyone.
Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
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Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
#42Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.
>These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law You have it wrong in the worst way. They are wholly inside the law because they have enough power to influence the people and systems that get to use discretion to determine what is and isn't inside the law. No amount of screeching about how laws ought to be enforced will affect them because they are tautologically legal, so long as they can afford…
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
#43Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.
Everybody blames facebook, noone blames the legislators and the courts. Stuff like this could easily make them pay multi-billion dollar fines, stuff that affects more users maybe even in the trillion range. When government workers come pick up servers, chairs and projectors from company buildings to sell at an auction, because there is not enough liquid value in the company to pay the fines, they (well, the others) w…
I think Mark Zuckerberg is acutely aware of the political power he holds and has been using this immense power at least for the last decade. But since Facebook is a US company and the US government is not interested in touching Faceebok, I doubt anyone will see what Zuckerberg and Facebook are up to. The US would have to put Lina Khan back in at the FTC, or put her high up in the Department of Justice to split Facebook into pieces. I guess the other hope is that states' attorneys' general when an anti-monopoly lawsuit.
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
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I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…
> he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women Maybe I'm too old, but what in the world does being eeee'd mean? >I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation. With all due respect, Luigi was just a CS student with a six pack, a self made gun, and a aching back on a mission. The Donald himself nearly got got by his ear while he had the secre…
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
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I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…
"I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation." Luigi was a dude with a 3D printed gun. I have LASERs with enough power to self-focus, have zero ballistic drop, and can dump as much power as a .50cal BMG in a millisecond burst of light which can hit you from the horizon's edge. All Zuck needs to do is stand by a window, and eyeballs would vaporize.
Call it a “day of rage” or just babyrage but we build systems so our bus factor can increase above 1. Just killing people no longer breaks them. It makes someone nothing more than a juvenile murderer.
I don’t really care what lasers you have, I’d suggest you choose a different legacy for yourself.
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
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Funny, but this kinda implies that some person designed this way. It's a resultant sum of small vectors, with corporate lobbying playing a significant role. Corporate lobbying systemically can't do anything else than try to increase profits, which usually means less regulation. Clean slate design would require a system collapse.
When Facebook releases an AI Model for free: "Based Facebook. Zuckerberg is a genius visionary" When Facebook does something unforgivable: "It's a systemic problem. Zuck is just a smol bean"
So just because Zuck does some good stuff for the tech world, doesn't mean he's work isn't a net negative to society.
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
#47> [...] users, regularly answered highly intimate questions. These ranged from the timing and comfort level of menstrual cycles, through to mood swings and preferred birth control methods, and their level of satisfaction with their sex life and romantic relationships. The app even asked when users had engaged in sexual activity and whether they were trying to get pregnant.
> [...] 150 million people were using the app, according to court documents. Flo had promised them that they could trust it.
> Flo Health shared that intimate data with companies including Facebook and Google, along with mobile marketing firm AppsFlyer, and Yahoo!-owned mobile analytics platform Flurry. Whenever someone opened the app, it would be logged. Every interaction inside the app was also logged, and this data was shared.
> "[...] the terms of service governing Flo Health’s agreement with these third parties allowed them to use the data for their own purposes, completely unrelated to services provided in connection with the App,”
Bashing on Facebook/Meta might give a quick dopamine hit, but they really aren't special here. The victims' data was routinely sold, en mass, per de facto industry practices. Victims should assume that hundreds of orgs, all over the world, now have copies of it. Ditto any government or criminal groups which thought it could be useful. :(
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
#48Meta truly is the worst company. In almost everything Meta does, it truly makes the most user-hostile decisions, awful decision, every single time. Cambridge Analytica The Rohingya Genocide Suppressing Palestinian content during a genocide Damage to teenage (and adult) mental health Anyway, I mention this because some friends are building a social media alternative to Instagram: https://upscrolled.com , aiming to be…
Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court
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When Facebook releases an AI Model for free: "Based Facebook. Zuckerberg is a genius visionary" When Facebook does something unforgivable: "It's a systemic problem. Zuck is just a smol bean"
What's with this reductionist logic? Nothing is ever 100% good or 100% evil, everything is on a spectrum. So just because Zuck does some good stuff for the tech world, doesn't mean he's work isn't a net negative to society.
Oh he absolutely is.
I'm just saying that it's common in this community to attribute the achievements of big companies to leadership (E.g. the mythology of Steve Jobs), but dismiss all the evil stuff to "systemic issues".