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Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by graemep »

kubb wrote: post #12
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Funny, but this kinda implies that some person designed this way. It's a resultant sum of small vectors, with corporate lobbying playing a significant role. Corporate lobbying systemically can't do anything else than try to increase profits, which usually means less regulation. Clean slate design would require a system collapse.

> Corporate lobbying systemically can't do anything else than try to increase profits, which usually means less regulation.

Corporate lobbying can be for more regulation. It can disadvantage competitors. Zuckerberg has spoken in favour of greater regulation of social media in the past. The UK's Online Safety Act creates barriers to entry and provides and excuse for more tracking. I can think of examples, some acknowledged by the CEOs of the companies involved, ranging from British pubs to American investment banks.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by lazide »

mschuster91 wrote: post #20
lazide wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

> I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. Pretty funny considering that Facebook's origin story was a women comparison site, or this memorable quote: > People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks.

Have you ever ordered a really good steak, like amazing. And really huge, and inexpensive too.

And it really is amazing! And super tasty.

But it’s so big, and juicy, that by the end of it you feel sick? But you can’t stop yourself?

And then at the end of it, you’re like - damn. Okay. No more steak for awhile?

If not steak, then substitute cake. Or Whiskey.

Just because you got what you wanted doesn’t mean you’re happy with all the consequences, or can stomach an infinitely increasing quantity of it.

Of course, he can pay to mitigate most of them, and he gets all the largest steaks he could want now, so whatever. I’m not going to cry about it. I thought it was interesting to see develop however.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by HPsquared »

potato3732842 wrote: post #28
kubb wrote: post #6

Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.

>These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law You have it wrong in the worst way. They are wholly inside the law because they have enough power to influence the people and systems that get to use discretion to determine what is and isn't inside the law. No amount of screeching about how laws ought to be enforced will affect them because they are tautologically legal, so long as they can afford…

It's one of those "I'm not trapped here with you; you're trapped here with me" type things.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by lightedman »

lazide wrote: post #14
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

"I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation."

Luigi was a dude with a 3D printed gun.

I have LASERs with enough power to self-focus, have zero ballistic drop, and can dump as much power as a .50cal BMG in a millisecond burst of light which can hit you from the horizon's edge. All Zuck needs to do is stand by a window, and eyeballs would vaporize.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by throwaway290 »

setsewerd wrote: post #24
everdrive wrote: post #10

Don't use apps. It's a simple as that. 95% of the time they are not worth the incredible privacy invasion they impose on users.

Pardon my ignorance, but can't you just solve this by disabling location permissions, etc for a given app?

What they do then is create an app where location is necessary, make that app spin up a localhost server, then add js to facebook and every site with a like button to phone that localhost and basically deanon everyone.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by lemonberry »

kubb wrote: post #6

Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.

The worst part for me personally is that almost everyone I know cares about this stuff and yet they keep all of their Meta accounts. I really don't get it and frankly, find it kind of disturbing.

I know people that don't see anything wrong with Meta so they keep using it. And that's fine! Your actions seem to align with your stated values.

I get human fallibility. I've been human for awhile now, and wow, have I made some mistakes and miscalculations.

What really puts a bee in my bonnet though is how dogmatic some of these people are about their own beliefs and their judgement of other people.

I love people, I really do. But what weird, inconsistent creatures we are.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by fHr »

kubb wrote: post #6

Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.

Roblox lul

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by potato3732842 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #26
lazide wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

> he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women Maybe I'm too old, but what in the world does being eeee'd mean? >I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation. With all due respect, Luigi was just a CS student with a six pack, a self made gun, and a aching back on a mission. The Donald himself nearly got got by his ear while he had the secre…

Pretty much anyone without presidential quality security clearing the place ahead of them stands to get clapped Franz Ferdinand style by anyone dedicated enough to camp out waiting.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by fHr »

lightedman wrote: post #34
lazide wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

"I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation." Luigi was a dude with a 3D printed gun. I have LASERs with enough power to self-focus, have zero ballistic drop, and can dump as much power as a .50cal BMG in a millisecond burst of light which can hit you from the horizon's edge. All Zuck needs to do is stand by a window, and eyeballs would vaporize.

FBI open up

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by lazide »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #26
lazide wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

> he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women Maybe I'm too old, but what in the world does being eeee'd mean? >I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation. With all due respect, Luigi was just a CS student with a six pack, a self made gun, and a aching back on a mission. The Donald himself nearly got got by his ear while he had the secre…

And yet, Mr. Trump is up there trolling the world like he loves to do, and Zuck is out there doing whatever he wants.

The reality is, all those ex-navy seal Dad’s are (generally) wishing they could make the cut to get on those dudes payroll, not gunning for them. Or sucking up to the cult, in general.

The actual religious idea of Karma is not ‘bad things happen to bad people right now’, the way we would like.

Rather ‘don’t hate on king/priest/rich dude, they did something amazing in a prior life which is why they deserve all this wealth right now, and if they do bad things, they’ll go down a notch - maybe middle class - in the next life’.

It’s to justify why people end up suffering for no apparent reason in this life (because they had to have done something really terrible in a prior life), while encouraging them to do good things still for a hopefully better next life (if you think unclogging Indian sewers in this life is bad, you could get reincarnated as a roach in that sewer in the next life!). So they don’t go out murdering everyone they see, even if they get shit on constantly.

There is no magic bullet. Hoping someone else is going to solve all your problems is exactly how manipulative folks use you for their own purposes. And being a martyr to go after some asshole is being used that way too.

This is also why eventually an entire generation of hippies turned into accountants in the 80’s.

shrug

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