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Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by potato3732842 »

itsalotoffun wrote: post #2

I mean.. there's simply no repercussions for these companies, and only rivers of money on the other side. The law is laughably inept at keeping them in check. The titans of Surveillance Capitalism don't need to obey laws. CFOs line-item-ing provisional legal settlement fees as (minor) COGS. And us digital serfs, we simply have no rights. Dumb f*cks, indeed.

The line between big business and the state is blurry and the state wants to advance big business as a means to advance itself. Once you understand this everything makes sense, or as much "sense" as it can.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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pbiggar wrote: post #4

Meta truly is the worst company. In almost everything Meta does, it truly makes the most user-hostile decisions, awful decision, every single time. Cambridge Analytica The Rohingya Genocide Suppressing Palestinian content during a genocide Damage to teenage (and adult) mental health Anyway, I mention this because some friends are building a social media alternative to Instagram: https://upscrolled.com , aiming to be…

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Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by j33zusjuice »

Ekaros wrote: post #8
dkiebd wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users gave their data to Flo, and Flo then gave it to Meta. What repercussions do you want for Meta?

Some percent of their revenue as fine per case. Only way to scare these companies at this point.

A significant portion, too, not fractions of a percent. Frankly, I want the fines to bankrupt them. That’s the point. I want their behavior to be punished appropriately. Killing the company is an appropriate response, imo: FB/Meta is a scourge on society.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by setsewerd »

everdrive wrote: post #10

Don't use apps. It's a simple as that. 95% of the time they are not worth the incredible privacy invasion they impose on users.

Pardon my ignorance, but can't you just solve this by disabling location permissions, etc for a given app?

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by amarcheschi »

everdrive wrote: post #10

Don't use apps. It's a simple as that. 95% of the time they are not worth the incredible privacy invasion they impose on users.

Mozilla did a comparison between period tracking apps and there are some that should respect user's privacy

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/cate...

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

lazide wrote: post #14
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

> he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women

Maybe I'm too old, but what in the world does being eeee'd mean?

>I can assure you, Meta is well aware of the situation, and a Luigi isn’t going to have a chance in this situation.

With all due respect, Luigi was just a CS student with a six pack, a self made gun, and a aching back on a mission.

The Donald himself nearly got got by his ear while he had the secret service of the US of A to protect him, not some private goons for hire, and that was just a random redditor with a rifle, not a professional assassin.

So what would happen if let's say meta's algorithms push a teenage girl to kill herself by exploiting her self esteem issues to sell her more beauty products, and her ex-navy seal dad with nothing more to loose grabs his McMillan TAC-338 boom stick and makes his life mission to avenge his lost daughter at the expense of his own? Zuck would need to be lucky every time, but that bad actor would need to be lucky once.

I'm not advocating for violence btw, my comment was purely hypothetical.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by moolcool »

kubb wrote: post #12
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Funny, but this kinda implies that some person designed this way. It's a resultant sum of small vectors, with corporate lobbying playing a significant role. Corporate lobbying systemically can't do anything else than try to increase profits, which usually means less regulation. Clean slate design would require a system collapse.

When Facebook releases an AI Model for free: "Based Facebook. Zuckerberg is a genius visionary"

When Facebook does something unforgivable: "It's a systemic problem. Zuck is just a smol bean"

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by potato3732842 »

kubb wrote: post #6

Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.

>These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law

You have it wrong in the worst way. They are wholly inside the law because they have enough power to influence the people and systems that get to use discretion to determine what is and isn't inside the law. No amount of screeching about how laws ought to be enforced will affect them because they are tautologically legal, so long as they can afford to be.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by codegladiator »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #18
kubb wrote: post #6

Whenever you think of a court versus Facebook, imagine one of these mini mice trying to stick it to a polar bear. Or a goblin versus a dragon, or a fly versus an elephant. These companies are for the most part effectively outside of the law. The only time they feel pressure is when they can lose market share, and there's risk of their platform being blocked in a jurisdiction. That's it.

All they need to do is impose a three digit fine per affected user and Facebook will immediately feel intense pressure.

three digit ? the only thing these folks understand is exponential growth per affected user.

Re: Meta accessed women's health data from Flo app without consent, says court

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Post by hobs »

lazide wrote: post #14
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I once ran across Zuckerberg in a Palo Alto cafe. I only noticed him (I was in the process of ordering a sandwich, and don’t really care about shit like that) because he was being ‘eeeeeeee’d’ by a couple of random women that he didn’t seem to know. He seemed pretty uncomfortable about the whole thing. One of them had a stroller which she was profoundly ignoring during the whole thing, which I found a bit disturbing.…

It's not the only way. The oppressed do not need to become the oppressor, its just the simplest rut for the wheel to turn in.
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