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Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by ViscountPenguin »

dingnuts wrote: post #218
tehjoker wrote: post #213

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It's a war, not a genocide. Gaza is under seige. Hamas should unconditionally surrender but they prefer to put their children in harm's way than to surrender. Tell me, if this is a genocide, what has happened to all the Jews in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan since 1950? No, defense of Israel is the last stand of a people that has been slowly eradicated from their indigenous region for the la…

I'm very happy to call what's happened to Jews in the middle east for the past century a genocide, but you don't earn genocide brownie points that you can inflict on another group.

If the war in Gaza was really just about Hamas, then a) Israel wouldn't have been tacitly supporting them for decades, and b) It would be well and truly over already, given that they're completely defanged and have no more competent regional allies.

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Post by nmstoker »

gerdesj wrote: post #238
oliyoung wrote: post #209

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Quickly? London is one of the most CCTV covered cities in the world, and has been since the 70s As shocking as this is, it's not _surprising_

That probably is true by some measure. There are a lot of cameras in the UK - rather more than when I was a nipper! I'm 55 and pretty well travelled and I've noted similar levels of coverage in many EU countries and the US and CA and of course CN (to be fair, my experience of CN is only HK). I don't know why people get so whizzed up about London's CCTV coverage. For me the scariest area is the M42 south of Birmingham…

Ah the Silver Jubilee Mugs, we had a grey one with that weird bumpy ceramic effect.

Anyway, on the cameras you're spot on. I do wonder how much UK cameras are used though - like a microcosm of our national potential, the cameras have potential but how often are they really used: half are likely faulty, most have the person monitoring them on a tea break when something happens and it seems to need an extreme act of violence before they get used in earnest.

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #222
dingnuts wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a war, not a genocide. Gaza is under seige. Hamas should unconditionally surrender but they prefer to put their children in harm's way than to surrender. Tell me, if this is a genocide, what has happened to all the Jews in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan since 1950? No, defense of Israel is the last stand of a people that has been slowly eradicated from their indigenous region for the la…

Israel needs to open it's borders and embrace multi-culturalism.

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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by kypro »

poszlem wrote: post #50

They seem to be doing everything except actual policing.

To be fair they did stop a guy on a skateboard the other day, fined him £300, and gave him 6 points on his non-existent license, https://x.com/JamesHarvey2503/status/1955215331959394764

People act like the UK is lawless and people can just steal bikes from public bike rakes, steel food from stores, or even turn up on UK shores illegally and be given 4* hotels, but presumably this isn't true given how strictly they enforce almost completely irrelevent stuff like a dude on an electrified skateboard.

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Post by tom_ »

johnisgood wrote: post #106
grepnork wrote: post #103

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Overdosing is not a crime, it's not even the job of the Police to help, and possession of drugs is being ignored by most forces because an arrest takes two officers off frontline services for 4 hours, when it will most likely result in a caution.

Here, if the cop sees someone overdosing, they immediately call the ambulance, not walk by and do nothing. Also if someone is overdosing, they are probably possessing. People should do it at home or somewhere else, not on the streets. I don't care if someone is consuming inside their home.

Wait, where's "here"? You just said you'd seen the police do nothing about somebody overdosing - and now you're saying that's exactly what they never do, where you are. Wherever that is.

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Post by protocolture »

Shank wrote: post #22

The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?

People beat up the UK for their stance on this stuff all the time.

>it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?

No

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by protocolture »

dingnuts wrote: post #218
tehjoker wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's a war, not a genocide. Gaza is under seige. Hamas should unconditionally surrender but they prefer to put their children in harm's way than to surrender. Tell me, if this is a genocide, what has happened to all the Jews in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan since 1950? No, defense of Israel is the last stand of a people that has been slowly eradicated from their indigenous region for the la…

>It's a war, not a genocide. Gaza is under seige.

It can be 2 things.

>Hamas should unconditionally surrender but they prefer to put their children in harm's way than to surrender.

"Surrender" means leaving their kids with more of the same until the next flashpoint. Israel has orchestrated a no win scenario, and some people forced into that place have decided they would prefer violence now instead of later.

>what has happened to all the Jews in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan since 1950?

Some have been forcibly removed. Some of those countries also worked with the zionists to relocate those people willingly to palestinian land.

>Hamas simply needs to surrender in this round of the war they started. But they won't unless they control Jerusalem.

"Hamas wont stop until they are in a better position to defend palestinians" isnt the amazing argument you might think it is.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by bko »

Shank wrote: post #22

The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?

> Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?

From the article:

> Under the plans, 10 live facial recognition (LFR) vans will be used by seven forces across England to help identify "sex offenders or people wanted for the most serious crimes", according to Home Secretary Yvette Cooper.

I guess it depends on how dangerous these criminals are. If there was someone offing kids randomly in my neighborhood, I wouldn't necessarily be against this technology. I think it would be good in schools, where we really should know exactly anyone entering the school. But of course there is a limit.

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