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This has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with the UK being a addicted to surveillance. They have a long history of spying on their own citizens.
Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
HN Guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait"
The changed title is actually misleading since it includes three other countries that didn’t appear in the original.
That's on me, i made a mistake when writing the title
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Thousands of children aren't being assaulted, unless you count by Jimmy Saville and his friends.
The comment you're replying to isn't greatly helpful, but neither is yours.
Rotherham alone, a town of ~250k people, had an estimated 1,400 victims.
Then there's Rochdale, Oxford, Telford, Huddersfield, Derby...
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#44The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?
They've been doing this for years at protests, using "Forward Intelligence Teams". Even back in 2010 [1] there was an action group trying to protest this growing police-state (Fitwatch). The UK has had an insane number of CCTV cameras for as long as I can remember. Must be a truly dangerous place... https://web.archive.org/web/20100824175032/http://fitwatch.o...
The CCTV cameras I've never really had a problem with - despite what TV shows and films would like to tell you they're not actually a single coherent CCTV network, a vast proportion of them are operated by random shopkeepers, private home owners, and other such places. If they want footage from them the police are typically going to have to send someone out to ask for it, and then hope they haven't reused the storage already.
This sort of thing, deploying facial recognition systems in the street in the hope of finding someone, is much more insidious. Technically you can choose to bypass it, or pull something over your face, but that's more or less guaranteeing that you'll be stopped and questioned as to why you're concerned about it.
Sadly the UK never met an authoritarian they didn't like (apart from Hitler, so long as you're not as bad as Hitler himself you're good though). When surveyed the British public will call for banning basically anything they don't like, even if it doesn't impact them at all.
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#45As a Brit my feeling is that the state has basically given up on the concept of doing the right thing (not even from an ivory tower moral perspective, but from a realpolitik grow the economy / fix the issue sense) and is just throwing sticking plasters everywhere.
The recent issues with crime are, at root, apparently down to the fact that we don’t have enough prison places and we don’t have enough police.
The obvious solution is to hire more police, raise the wages, compulsory purchase a big field somewhere, make a massive prison and lock up the worst offenders for a long time.
There is some obsession with “making the books balance” as if this even matters. The Government is sovereign but acts as if somehow they have to do everything at market price like a private individual would.
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#46The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?
Well, China got away with it.
More than got away with it, actually... they prospered.
There has to be an incentive to not do these things as a government. There is none in the UK.
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#47The UK is broke but has infinite money for a surveillance state.
One justification for increased surveillance is that it is cheaper than hiring police officers.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not immigrants. Illegal immigrants.
Colonial powers are not entitled to that argument, it's hypocritical.
> Colonial powers are not entitled to that argument, it's hypocritical.
Yes they are. Everyone everywhere has invaded or otherwise traded their way into power in other countries (or pre-country equivalents). It's extremely foolish to bucket the world into Britain and not-Britain if one isn't entirely ignorant of history.
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#49The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?
The form of government matters a lot, when evaluating its security apparatus. I feel a lot differently about the death penalty in America than in Iran too.
that is very funny thank you
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#50They seem to be doing everything except actual policing.