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Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not wrong as England is within the UK: it's just not as precise as it could have been.

HN Guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait"

The changed title is actually misleading since it includes three other countries that didn’t appear in the original.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

#22
The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the country that brought you vans telling immigrants to "GO HOME OR FACE ARREST" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Go_Home%22_vans

Not immigrants. Illegal immigrants.

Colonial powers are not entitled to that argument, it's hypocritical.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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> Various privacy considerations are made with each LFR deployment in the UK, the cops say. These include notifying the public about when, where, and for how long LFR will be used in a given area, allowing them to exercise their right not to be captured by the technology.

Are they trying to normalize wearing masks, helmets, burkas and balaclavas everywhere?

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

#27

Doesn't the UK have cameras everywhere doing this anyways?

Nope. They started a long time ago with the cameras and didn't upgrade them, because money. Which means a pretty large part of the cameras have pathetic resolution and are black and white, as well as being too far away from much of their vision. Useful for locating protestors sorry ("getting a general idea of criminal activity"), not so useful for recognizing anyone.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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post #10

Well, that's some distopean shit right there ain't it

From the country that brought you vans telling immigrants to "GO HOME OR FACE ARREST" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Go_Home%22_vans

Also from the country with television detection vans so you can pay your TV tax, what CAN'T vans do?

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. We are going to be hearing that argument a lot as the AI police state evolves

And you’re not trans. And you don’t perform drag. And you don’t go to an event with a lot of gay people. And you don’t get mistaken for someone because ai isn’t perfect. (Especially if your race doesn’t have many people in the dataset.) But the people that don’t have anything to fear don’t see anything wrong with “inconveniencing” these groups.

This is the UK, and it's the police controlling these vans. So trans, drag and gay are not at issue here.

And somehow, the countries where it is a problem are never discussed. All muslim countries, for example, almost like not all religions are equal ... if you read hrw or amnesty you'll find that even the most moderate muslim countries like Morocco or Turkey deal violently with sexuality (all forms, really, yes, being trans drag will, of course, attract immediate attention. But let's not pretend they leave public displays of straight sexuality (including subtle and tasteful) alone). And Morocco and Turkey are absolutely nothing like something like Afghanistan or even Iran.

But in the UK the line is drawn pretty damn far. Are you seriously complaining about that?

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