Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

whynothugo.nl

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

221–226 of 226 posts

Re: GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

#221

Post by jama211 »

ath3nd wrote: post #162
jama211 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also in general I find developers usually overestimate the value of good code outside of mission critical systems. The true value return of spending way more time and effort to improve code quality often simply isn’t worth it from a holistic perspective.

> The true value return of spending way more time and effort to improve code quality often simply isn’t worth it from a holistic perspective. Sure, if you want to do with 100 developers what 10 can do better, cheaper and faster, don't spend time on code quality. Just vibe it. More work for the experts to fix that mess later.

The fact that you’re so instantly dismissive of my really quite reasonable point really says more about you than anything.

Re: GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

#222

Post by jama211 »

ath3nd wrote: post #163
jama211 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And like plastic, a fantastic material for many jobs, it’s just has its own pros and cons

> And like plastic, a fantastic material for many jobs Yes, by the same logic arsenic has many pros (and some cons, admittedly) in paint production, thorium is a not bad material for toothpaste (google it), and asbestos is just dandy for fire insulation (with some teeny tiny negatives for your lungs). The fact that plastic is in the bloodstream of every living being and it's a strong endocrine disruptor and there is…

I’m sensing just a “hint” of bad faith wording from you here if I’m being honest with you.

Re: GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

#223

Post by jama211 »

martinald wrote: post #173
jama211 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you’re being paid to deliver the product to the _company’s_ chosen standards, not yours. And in my experience, fast and cheap and cheerful is often exactly what they want. They’ll have changed their minds next week and want it all ripped out for something else anyway.

Exactly. _So much_ software dev is "throwaway" in my experience. Of course some isn't. Landing pages, A/B tests, even a lot of feature work is very speculative and gets put in the trash. I do wonder if this is why there is such a gulf in LLM experience. If you're doing hardcore huge scale distributed systems then I can (maybe?) see why you'd think it is useless. However, that is very niche imo and most software dev w…

Indeed. And you get some engineers who only want to code perfect bespoke code all the time and sometimes that’s useful and sometimes it’s not. It depends on the requirements of the client, just as it would in any other trade. We need to be flexible to both the clients time and money budget, and also make code that suits the criticality of the task at hand. If you can’t lower your standards to fit a use case, I think it’s actually a bad thing.

Re: GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

#224

Post by jama211 »

socalgal2 wrote: post #161
jama211 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is for a janky backend admin panel, not a customer facing product. If it’s way better than it was before, which likely wasn’t responsive either, it’s a win. Understanding the context of a project is important.

And the tests? To me, if it was something important enough to have tests for in which case it's important to check the tests are valid so I'd have to review them

I think you’re overestimating the complexity of the tests required here. But I take it from the rest of your comment that you understand my point.

Re: GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

#225

Post by GreenWatermelon »

jama211 wrote: post #222
ath3nd wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And like plastic, a fantastic material for many jobs Yes, by the same logic arsenic has many pros (and some cons, admittedly) in paint production, thorium is a not bad material for toothpaste (google it), and asbestos is just dandy for fire insulation (with some teeny tiny negatives for your lungs). The fact that plastic is in the bloodstream of every living being and it's a strong endocrine disruptor and there is…

I’m sensing just a “hint” of bad faith wording from you here if I’m being honest with you.

There isn't a hint of bad faith in the Parent's comment, it's just a sarcastic tongue-in-cheek way to say that it's not really cool to poison the fuck out of ourselves just because x material is kinda nice for y.

Re: GPTs and Feeling Left Behind

#226

Post by jama211 »

GreenWatermelon wrote: post #225
jama211 wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sensing just a “hint” of bad faith wording from you here if I’m being honest with you.

There isn't a hint of bad faith in the Parent's comment, it's just a sarcastic tongue-in-cheek way to say that it's not really cool to poison the fuck out of ourselves just because x material is kinda nice for y.

Well I was being polite by saying a hint, there was in fact a lot. If you can’t see it, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that.
Post reply on HN