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Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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For some different perspective, try my model EMOTRON[1] with EMOTION: disagreeable. It is very hard to get anything done with it. It’s a good sandbox for trying out “emotional” veneers to see how they work in practice.

“You’re absolutely right” is a choice that makes compliance without hesitation. But also saddles it with other flaws.

[1]https://huggingface.co/dleemiller/EMOTRON-3B

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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Claude often confidently makes mistakes or asserts false things about a code base. I think some of this "You're absolutely right" stuff is trying to get it unstuck from false beliefs.

By starting the utterance with "You're absolutely right!", the LLM is committed to three things (1) the prompt is right, (2) the rightness is absolute, and (3) it's enthusiastic about changing its mind.

Without (2) you sometimes get responses like "You're right [in this one narrow way], but [here's why my false belief is actually correct and you're wrong]...".

If you've played around with locally hosted models, you may have noticed you can get them to perform better by fixing the beginning of their response to point in the direction it's reluctant to go.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

#123

What llm isn’t a sycophant?

I'm using ChatGPT with "Robot" personality, and I really like the style it uses. Very short and informative, no useless chatter at all.

I guess that personality is just few words in the context prompt, so probably any LLM can be tailored to any style.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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This applies to so many AIs. I don't want a bubbly sycophant. I don't want a fake personality or an anime avatar. I just want a helpful assistant. I also don't get wanting to talk to an AI. Unless you are alone, that's going to be irritating for everyone else around.

I want an AI modeled after short-tempered stereotypical Germans or Eastern Europeans, not copying the attitude of non-confrontational Californians that say “dude, that’s awesome!” a dozen times a day. And I mean that unironically.

While you are not alone, all evidence points to the vast majority of people preferring "yes men" as their advisors. Often to their eventual harm.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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I'm pretty sure they want it kissing people's asses because it makes users feel good and therefore more likely to use the LLM more. Versus, if it just gave a curt and unfriendly answer, most people (esp. Americans) wouldn't like to use it as much. Just a hypothesis.

For me, it's getting annoying. Not every question is an excellent question. Not every statement is a brilliant observation. In fact, I'm almost certain every idea I've typed into an LLM has been thought of before by someone else, many many times.

Heh - yeah have had trillion dollar ideas many times :)

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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I'm pretty sure they want it kissing people's asses because it makes users feel good and therefore more likely to use the LLM more. Versus, if it just gave a curt and unfriendly answer, most people (esp. Americans) wouldn't like to use it as much. Just a hypothesis.

> Versus, if it just gave a curt and unfriendly answer, most people (esp. Americans)

I don’t see this as an American thing. It’s an extension of the current Product Management trend to give software quirky and friendly personality.

You can see the trend in more than LLM output. It’s in their desktop app that has “Good Morning” and other prominent greetings. Claude Code has quirky status output like “Bamboozling” and “Noodling”.

It’s a theme throughout their product design choices. I’ve worked with enough trend-following product managers to recognize this trend toward infusing express personality into software to recognize it.

For what it’s worth, the Americans I know don’t find it as cute or lovable as intended. It feels fake and like an attempt to play at emotions.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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I'm pretty sure they want it kissing people's asses because it makes users feel good and therefore more likely to use the LLM more. Versus, if it just gave a curt and unfriendly answer, most people (esp. Americans) wouldn't like to use it as much. Just a hypothesis.

You're absolutely right! Americans are a bit weird like that, most people around the world would be perfectly okay with short and to-the-point answers. Especially if those answers are coming from a machine that's just giving its best imitation of a stochastic hallucinating parrot.

Claude is very "American", just try asking it to use English English spelling instead of American English spelling; it lasts about 3~6 sentences before it goes back. Also there is only American English in the UI (like the spell checker, et al), in Spanish you get a choice of dialects, but not English.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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post #90

I'm pretty sure they want it kissing people's asses because it makes users feel good and therefore more likely to use the LLM more. Versus, if it just gave a curt and unfriendly answer, most people (esp. Americans) wouldn't like to use it as much. Just a hypothesis.

For me, it's getting annoying. Not every question is an excellent question. Not every statement is a brilliant observation. In fact, I'm almost certain every idea I've typed into an LLM has been thought of before by someone else, many many times.

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Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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I never said such a thing. The racist here is in your mirror.

> That's why people used to like using Grok so much, since it was never afraid to get edgy if you asked it to.

You said you liked it when it was more “edgy” and we all know what it used to say as recently as 2-3 weeks ago. And we all know what went on in those Halo/CoD lobbies. A lot of immature racism. I connect the dots. Why are you expecting an LLM to be human when it clearly is not. It’s a tool. Use it.

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