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Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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It's clear from context that it's a perfectly cromulent word.

True, but using unusual words embiggens the chance that your audience might not understand. The only regular use of bleem Google finds is for a PS1 emulator.

There's also this bleem[1], but that wouldn't make sense either.

[1]: [http://www.strangehorizons.com/2000/20001120/secret_number.s...]

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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Well, our ageing housing stock, escalating house prices and lack of urban social mobility does warrant focus on housing, the knock on effects for the construction industry also show this as being a sensible economic policy as well as solving an increasing socioeconomic problem. I'm not sure how using a Welsh factory shows how this government is anti capitalist or anti manufacturing - given that Wales is in the UK and…

My point was that it's not a British factory: it's a Sony-owned plant that happens to be in the UK at this point in time. Sony is a Japanese-American corporation; all this chest-beating is quite unwarranted. The point about capitalism is that "Euro" capitalists don't want to face any risk, as this story proves: British money didn't want to back the Pi when it was unproven, and even now they could only find Japanese-A…

I would argue that it is a british factor, regardless of the name above the door it is based in the UK and as a result help the UK economy.

The reason for all those empty buildings is due to an old insurance policy (now illegal) that meant developers could build and insure against it being empty ... essentially the insurance company pays the rent if the building is empty and as such there is no incentive for the developer to actively let it out.

Setting up a line like this is expensive and unless you are willing to foot the bill for the factory setting up the line then it is understandable that most factories would decline the work if they thought the market opportunity was small of the business plan was weak.

Either way I think we both agree on this being a good thing but we don't know the context in which the work was previously declined

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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> I agree that this is something that needs to happen eventually. If the world keeps paying China to make everything they will end up owning us all. On paper they probably already do. That's too pessimistic. Broaden your horizon away from the British (and perhaps US) example. The German economy is doing fine for manufacturing, but they have no qualms about importing from China at all.

Manufacturing in the US is also very strong, might even be the highest it's ever been. The, so called, problem is that it doesn't really hire as many people as it used to due to automation.

Manufacturing is also pretty strong in the UK - it just doesn't employ many people so everyone assumes we don't do it anymore.

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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This is great news for RPi team and for uk manufacturing. I've been saying for over a year now that if there is a reasonable level of automation then there is no reason why china should be cheaper than the uk.so long as you can maintain a robust supply chain of components (I should think using a sony facility is beneficial to this) then it can work out great. We priced our product for uk and china and china was infac…

I completely agree but it's not just wages and taxes. China has everything they need to bleem out consumer electronics indefinitely. They source the materials within China and they produce [most of] the components in China. It's all there under one currency. I love England but we don't really have the rare earth metals required to do this stuff. We need to import them and that means paying China more money. Often mor…

The UK has always depended on import to sustain its industry. Pretty much nothing's changed since it was a colonial empire - it's just that the materials and parts are sourced from independent countries now.

I was surprised to find out that Land Rover outsources the manufacturing of most of the exterior and interior trimming on the mainland, then ships everything for assembly to the UK, for example. The same is probably true for the electronics and most engine parts, as well.

Volvo (Sweden) does the exact same thing...

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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It was last week; I had to go 20 minutes through Bristol to go from the M5 to the M4 as they had closed the entire junction :(

Despite my previous attempts to moonlight as a Brit, I'm an American. As such, I find the stereotypical British aversion to driving long distances amusing. I know I would be upset at driving 20 minutes out of the way if my journey was shorter than an hour, but I (and many other Americans) frequently drive hundreds of miles in one journey every week/month/multiple times per year. I moderated a subreddit once upon a ti…

I usually try to justify our whining about driving comparatively short distances by pointing out that our roads are rarely straight and normally badly maintained :D

And you're right about the neighborhood; I'd probably not consider mine to stretch for more than 5 miles from where I live.

It's on topic enough for me!

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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It was last week; I had to go 20 minutes through Bristol to go from the M5 to the M4 as they had closed the entire junction :(

Despite my previous attempts to moonlight as a Brit, I'm an American. As such, I find the stereotypical British aversion to driving long distances amusing. I know I would be upset at driving 20 minutes out of the way if my journey was shorter than an hour, but I (and many other Americans) frequently drive hundreds of miles in one journey every week/month/multiple times per year. I moderated a subreddit once upon a ti…

I'm originally from South Africa, and I share your amusement with the British fear of driving long distances. That said, the drive I'm doing tonight, is only 73 miles and without traffic will take close to two hours. The roads and the trains here are simply not designed to travel a decent distance in a short period of time. That said, people still don't even do the two hour drive to the next town to go visit places on the weekend, but part of that is because one accident on the road can turn the trip into a 3-4 hour trip easily on a Saturday. Oh, and the fuel price also has to be considered.

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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The biggest thing to take away from this isn't just they get to say made in Britain but that they've created an additional 30 jobs. Not only are they making a difference in encouraging people to learn from the hardware but they're also now creating another positive effect on society through job creation.

Not bad for a small, charitable business.

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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Since the dawn of globalization and the post-Cold war era, a number of countries are getting slot marked into particular sectors like: China for manufacturing, US for design, software, German auto mobile, India for outsourced services etc.

But to have a thriving and healthy society in a country, the variety is important so that people can pursue different interests and are not forced to migrate because there is no high-quality work in that area in that country.

Only way to do this is to protect the domestic market from foreign investment and give some time for high quality local players to grow. Then open for competition. But if a second world government does it, it is blamed for not allowing reforms and accused of denying progress to its citizens

So now another way is opening up.

So it is good for China too if such things happen. If a bunch of high quality companies open up in stuff that UK is traditionally known for (financial services?) then the balance will be stuck.

I hope financial institutions like IMF, World Bank take such things into count and come up with measures to increase variety in every country. It will make life a lot better for a lot of people.

Re: Raspberry Pi moves manufacturing to the UK

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Manufacturing in the US is also very strong, might even be the highest it's ever been. The, so called, problem is that it doesn't really hire as many people as it used to due to automation.

Manufacturing is also pretty strong in the UK - it just doesn't employ many people so everyone assumes we don't do it anymore.

The Economist recently had an article about the "Midlandstand". (They are very pun-y.)
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