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Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by littlestymaar »

dominicrose wrote: post #38

Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

Anyone who doesn't need to work while traveling actually.

A desktop is both cheaper (at the same spec), while being much more durable due to being upgradable and reparable.

Sure laptop win in terms of portability, but since we can do so much on our phone, I don't really feel the need to bring a computer with me everywhere.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by jwr »

In Tokyo, coffee shops seem to have embraced the work culture. Tables and seating have been adapted to working, and you often get a receipt with the time when you are expected to leave printed on it. Most (if not all) people in a Tully's in Tokyo are there to work.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

dominicrose wrote: post #38

Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

They used to be cheaper. Might still be?

I've had mine about ten years and it's still on the original CPU and mobo and PSU I think. I've probably saved a few hundred bucks from not buying another whole computer. It might not be as fast as a new laptop but it has more RAM and storage than most.

If I want to go into LLM stuff I will buy a newish used GPU for it. If the CPU is a bottleneck then I'll get a new mobo but I won't need a new chassis or PSU maybe ever. And the hard drives just rotate as I buy bigger ones

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by okasaki »

dominicrose wrote: post #38

Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

Laptops are terrible -

- Too small

- too loud

- too hot

- too few ports

- fake performance (good luck with your 105W "5090")

- OS confusion about active screen, keyboard and mouse (how many times have I experienced that only the built-in keyboard works during booting, or the OS showing the login screen on only the built-in screen),

- most of them have to be open or have ports in awkward places, and take up space comparable to a desktop.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by iojcde »

recursivecaveat wrote: post #8
pstuart wrote: post #2

Seems like an opportunity for a coworking-lite space -- rent a seat/desk spot for 1 hour blocks.

They actually have exactly that for gaming: a "pc bang" like a internet cafe. I wonder if it has been tried in earnest for co-working. You would think it is an easier business so long as the demand is there.

There's also study cafes, which are aimed more primarily at students but often have working spaces for laptop use. These are quiet spaces to focus compared to something like Starbucks or PC bangs though.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by ctxc »

londons_explore wrote: post #40
krogenx wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they could do some R&D to see if coffee could be used as ink.

I just put coffee in my printer to see... It kinda works, but the printouts are very faint. I was expecting it to clog immediately (the jets are ~10um), but it didn't.

Damn. The kind of friends I need in my life.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by senko »

dominicrose wrote: post #38

Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway. I guess some people still have their old computer and a lot of south korenas are gamers, but laptops are just better overall because of the portability. If people bring printerS pural then starbuck could "just" have a free-ish printer

> Why would anyone except a gamer buy a desktop computer anyway?

Because you get a beast of a machine for the price of MacBook Air, and because you prefer looking at a big ultrawide monitor instead of alt-tabbing like crazy on a 13" screen, and you prefer a full keyboard and a proper mouse to the cramped layout they stuff in laptops because there's no room.

Oh, and maybe a proper sound system.

And it can also double as a NAS (more physical space for storage) and home server.

Not everyone needs portability all the time. For when I do, I have a Thinkpad I can get by with, with Tailscale VPN so it has access to the workstation.

(for anyone curios, yes, it's still cheaper than top-of-the-line laptop + nas/home server combo, but my main reason is ergonomics).

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by yorwba »

thrown-0825 wrote: post #33
somedude895 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you know, you could just not go there if you don't like the place rather than be a prick to people who work there and customers who like going there.

Hard to do when starbucks is a real estate holding company that sells coffee. They have sucked all the air out of the cafe space and driven out their competitors.

Driven out their competitors where? In Seoul, Twosome Place and Hollys are ubiquitous, there's a few more chains whose names I don't remember off the top of my head and plenty of single-location cafes remain as well.

Re: Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by true_religion »

thrown-0825 wrote: post #33
somedude895 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you know, you could just not go there if you don't like the place rather than be a prick to people who work there and customers who like going there.

Hard to do when starbucks is a real estate holding company that sells coffee. They have sucked all the air out of the cafe space and driven out their competitors.

Is this to the point that no internet cafes exist?
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