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Basic Social Skills Guide

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Re: Basic Social Skills Guide

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If only someone could create an app or website to help us uninformed out with common phrases to use. Sentences like: "Did you see that ludicrous display last night?"

The thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in.

I've been known to drop this one in conversation to see if people pick up on it.

Have no idea if it's still true, but it certainly was in Wenger's time.

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I found that simply asking questions to learn about them ( as well as the person I'm speaking to) is enough. This is such a great insight and skill. This is something that 99% of "nerds" don't understand about sports. You don't have to fake your way through "knowing about sports" to have a conversation around it. Suppose you're in Buffalo, NY and you don't know a thing about sports. However, unless visiting with your…

Discussions like these show that some people really block out anything beyond their specific interests. I don't care about superhero movies, so I haven't seen any of the Marvel or DC movies, yet I still know they exist and sometimes I know which one is being promoted right now. If I got stuck at a table somewhere with someone who is a big fan of them, we could have a conversation. It'd mostly consist of me asking que…

Right! It's so simple to me, that I actually get kind of frustrated with people who haven't figured this out.

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The relevant thing is care and aid for the grieving loved ones of the deceased. Your presence at the funeral, while symbolic (some might even say empty symbolism) is a way of showing the mourners that the deceased was cared for by many. It is comforting to some extent. But of course, if funerals are too difficult, there are other ways to accomplish the same thing.

I never had to do with the grieving though? What do I care about the grieving? I care about the deceased person. I am not going to fake interest in their family if it never occurred when my friend was alive.

This has all been explained to you, thoroughly and repeatedly.

In the end... whatever. There are a lot of things that go into being a decent human being.

At the very least, I'm sure we'd agree on the big picture: the sum of how we care for our friends when they're alive is more important than what we do on the day of their funeral. So if you're being a good friend in other ways... hey, good on you.

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This may be a more recent thing, but I find a lot of the "sportsball" conversations are actually just slightly disguised conversations about gambling. Everyone is on Draft Kings and when they talk about this guy's stats or that team's past, or this game's expected score, they're just talking about betting and stuff. I don't think a lot of the sportsball people are even really fans of the sport, they're just looking a…

As somebody who enjoys both watching and playing sports, I agree and I think that sports betting is so gross and harmful. I have a question, though. What's up with the "sportsball" thing? I mean, I'm very familiar with it. It just seems like it's always been used as a mildly derogatory term by people who really dislike sports and sports fans. What does it mean to you? No wrong answers.

> It just seems like it's always been used as a mildly derogatory term by people who really dislike sports and sports fans.

Yeah, actually saying 'sportsball' in conversation in a non-ironic way is an excellent way to signal that you have poor social skills. No need to yuck someone's yum.

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The relevant thing is care and aid for the grieving loved ones of the deceased. Your presence at the funeral, while symbolic (some might even say empty symbolism) is a way of showing the mourners that the deceased was cared for by many. It is comforting to some extent. But of course, if funerals are too difficult, there are other ways to accomplish the same thing.

I never had to do with the grieving though? What do I care about the grieving? I care about the deceased person. I am not going to fake interest in their family if it never occurred when my friend was alive.

Why compartmentalize your love? I recently attended a funeral and shared sympathies with several strangers that over the course of time, became closer to friends.

Your friend almost certainly loved their family, and their family loved your friend. Although they may be gone, you can still keep that connective love alive by doing the same things for others that you’d do for your friend - sometimes, it’s as simple as showing up, even just once, for someone else.

Do you really have to fake that?

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As somebody who enjoys both watching and playing sports, I agree and I think that sports betting is so gross and harmful. I have a question, though. What's up with the "sportsball" thing? I mean, I'm very familiar with it. It just seems like it's always been used as a mildly derogatory term by people who really dislike sports and sports fans. What does it mean to you? No wrong answers.

> It just seems like it's always been used as a mildly derogatory term by people who really dislike sports and sports fans. Yeah, actually saying 'sportsball' in conversation in a non-ironic way is an excellent way to signal that you have poor social skills. No need to yuck someone's yum.

That's certainly been my experience. I've never heard it used in a way that wasn't a mild yucking of somebody else's yum.

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I guess the general stuff is movies, Netflix shows, music, your last short weekend trip, and pretty much everyone has their own personal non work thing, usually attached to a club or group (hiking, photography, whatever). I guess in that last category sports are commonplace, but it’s more “I’m training for a marathon next month” or “you should come bouldering sometime” rather than following professional sports on tv.

This sounds like it’s particular to your friend group rather than some coarse regional geography. If you toss a rock in Western Europe, you’ve got a better chance of hitting a football fan than someone who wants to go bouldering or train for a marathon.

>If you toss a rock in Western Europe, you’ve got a better chance of hitting a football fan than someone who wants to go bouldering or train for a marathon.

Yes and no. If you HAVE to choose a specific hobby, football will have more chances than others; but it will still work in a minority of cases and assuming carries an implication.

A comparison I could make is starting a conversation in the US with 'did you watch fox news yesterday?'. Out of all channels, it's the most watched one; but you still have high chances of asking a non-viewer, and then get hit by negative connotations.

Personal hobbies are much better topic for various reasons (you don't assume, people will naturally be exited about discussing their own, etc).

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Wow, you've had a very different experience, and apparently met very different people (or at least saw different sides of them). I have never discussed those things with my friends or acquaintances anywhere in the world, across many countries... I don't know anything (or care about) any of them, so I suppose I self-select out of those groups. The people I end up bonding with (all over the world) are usually because o…

Hunting/fishing are one type of "outdoor stuff".

Like how bombs / machine guns are types of “engineering”? :)

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I don't have the same experience at all. The people who I know and have met which enjoy watching sports come at all levels of fitness. I am not that interested myself but quite many of the members of my running club enjoy watching sports and some of them can run 3 hour marathons. And if you have ever met football ultras most of them are very fit.

What are football ultras?

the mob that pretends to be the core fans.

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The relevant thing is care and aid for the grieving loved ones of the deceased. Your presence at the funeral, while symbolic (some might even say empty symbolism) is a way of showing the mourners that the deceased was cared for by many. It is comforting to some extent. But of course, if funerals are too difficult, there are other ways to accomplish the same thing.

I never had to do with the grieving though? What do I care about the grieving? I care about the deceased person. I am not going to fake interest in their family if it never occurred when my friend was alive.

Personally I'd separate this out into two cases:

1 - Actively dislike the family

Sure, skip the funeral. If you & the family didn't get along in life there's no reason to put yourself through something you don't want to go to.

2 - Anything else

I'd go as a show of support for the family because the family was important to my friend. "It's what my friend would want" is the guiding principle here.

That said - I'm writing this as someone who was very uncomfortable going to funerals and now, years later, I regret choosing to stay home rather than go.

Your mileage may vary, as they say.

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