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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

> .NET is now cross platform, but only as long as it doesn't hurt VS sales, with GUI workloads, profilers, still being mostly Windows only, and partially supported on VSCode, which also has the same VS license. On HN I keep hearing that associating .NET with Windows is outdated perception. Writing JVM languages I feel that the developer experience is pretty much the same on any OS. It seems this cannot be said for .N…

Pretty much no, it can't be said for .Net.

It currently supports Linux as a running target for servers. It supports both running desktop software and development very badly.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #226

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Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful. In terms of coolness…

> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

You forgot things like shipping decades-old free software with their OS because Apple are so implacably opposed to their users having freedom to use, examine, modify and share that software.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #293

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Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful. In terms of coolness…

> Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will Good grief. Sometimes it's good to get a reminder that there are still people who think this way.

Yeah, I laughed audibly when I read that sentence...

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful. In terms of coolness…

> Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will Good grief. Sometimes it's good to get a reminder that there are still people who think this way.

On my office, only folks like myself that also do Windows development, have Thinkpads with Windows.

Everyone else carries Apple devices.

GNU/Linux only exists on local VMs for containers, or servers on cloud instances.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

This is an odd comment. Xamarin has never been relevant. GitHub is historically OSS focused. Xamarin was some weird niche product for Windows devs. Hardly any overlap with GitHub’s core audience. I don’t know what will happen next, but hodgepodge of weird MS tech isn’t the lens to view this through.

Didn't the Xamarin guy became the CEO of GitHub at one point?

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post #59

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Yeah, who's ever heard of this weird company named nvidia https://gitlab.com/nvidia >, or inkscape https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape >, or F-Droid https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidclient >

In what world does nvidia fall under FOSS and not big corporation? That seems like an odd example to lead with.

FOSS and "big corporation" are not antonyms. Today, many of the largest FOSS contributors are big corporations.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Perhaps it's nothing, but:

> “GitHub and its leadership team will continue its mission as part of Microsoft’s CoreAI organization, with more details shared soon,” says Dohmke in a memo to GitHub employees today. “I’ll be staying through the end of 2025 to help guide the transition and am leaving with a deep sense of pride in everything we’ve built as a remote-first organization spread around the world.”

Is interesting to me. There is quite a number of rumors that MSFT will be Returning to Office next year. The prominence of 'remote first' in this quote may indicate that such concerns are playing a role here...

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

> .NET is now cross platform, but only as long as it doesn't hurt VS sales, with GUI workloads, profilers, still being mostly Windows only, and partially supported on VSCode, which also has the same VS license. On HN I keep hearing that associating .NET with Windows is outdated perception. Writing JVM languages I feel that the developer experience is pretty much the same on any OS. It seems this cannot be said for .N…

Mh, I'm not the most experienced guy with .NET.

We have a few .NET applications running on the infrastructure on Linux hosts and it's just like every other thing.

But in some contexts, e.g. PowerBI, it pulls in a dependency and BOOM it's Windows Only to the point that not even Wine or Proton can help you. For something, that should be, mind you, a dumb SQL proxy like the PowerBI Embedded Gateway.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #73

The GitHub website experience is already messed up with forcing Copilot into everything. But then asking for user feedback about new setting options for issues but denying any request for a user default. This surely isn't going in any good direction. What's next ads in commits?

I can't even use the Github site without hitting rate limits all the time.

And the hot take is that Azure devops, including git and the pipelines, is actually better. That Github yaml trash is just a pain.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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post #75

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Heres the thing: it was a dev company with a side-AI business, but now Microsoft has signaled it wants an AI-GitHub with a dev-side business. The features that will be prioritized will be AI not Git improvement

Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.

I've just been shunted from TFS Git (Azure DevOps?) to GitHub.

The PR UI is taking some getting used to.

Dev changes code near a comment I made? Comment is marked "Outdated" and hidden. If I open it, can I see what change they made next to the comment? Nope, I have to go find it manually!

It sorts X.Y below X.Y.A, X.Y.B etc. in the file listing.

When I select a file in the listing I'd like to just have that file open, not scroll to it in a list of all the changes.

The first PR I did showed a ton of changes that had already been merged from common history. I can see the merge commit you made, GitHub, I know you know none of these changes are actually being made.

Not caring if a required action hasn't run automatically. No "run" option, not even a "this isn't ever going to run", just "waiting for result".

Weirdly, showing the result of an action on the source branch, when it needs to pass on the merge commit.

I've not yet figured out how to require different approvers for different branches, although that one might be on my org settings. It's either the people in the codeowners file or any contributor?

No way to allow a ruleset to be bypassable while making the approvers still manually bypass it themselves. I want to know if I'm getting it wrong as much as I want to stop my junior devs messing up.

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