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Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by TSiege »

thurn wrote: post #18

I think Cursor tab-completion is entirely in-house, right? That feature on its own is worth at least $5/month, it's super well done.

I think this is up to the user. I actually found tab so annoying that it was a big reason I quit cursor and cancelled my sub. I couldn't think straight with it constantly suggesting things to put in after every key stroke and caused a few annoying bugs for me.

I find pure claude and neovim to be a great pair. I set up custom vim commands to make sharing file paths, line numbers, and code super easy. that way I can move quickly through code for manual developing as well as have claude right there with the context it needs quickly.

Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by johnisgood »

moomin wrote: post #17

I know this isn’t the point of the article, but that’s not how the drug trade works at all. The producers make very little. The real money is in the logistics. Which you could argue is the cloud providers but the analogy isn’t great anyway.

This is new to me. Are you saying the people producing the drugs make very little?

Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by wmichelin »

manojlds wrote: post #20
bko wrote: post #6

I don't know, it seems like I'm the minority but I like Cursor. I think it adds value beyond the terminal style editors. Yes it relies on the Claude model but I get a lot of value from the visual component, history, auto-complete, etc. Couldn't you make the same argument around something like S3? How many companies are basically S3 wrappers? Or companies that use general AWS infra and make it slightly better. There c…

Claude Code with current IDE integration is already very good. Only thing missing is completion that Cursor is pretty good at.

I'm super excited to try the Cursor CLI https://cursor.com/cli

Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by bko »

ghysznje wrote: post #15
bko wrote: post #6

I don't know, it seems like I'm the minority but I like Cursor. I think it adds value beyond the terminal style editors. Yes it relies on the Claude model but I get a lot of value from the visual component, history, auto-complete, etc. Couldn't you make the same argument around something like S3? How many companies are basically S3 wrappers? Or companies that use general AWS infra and make it slightly better. There c…

Have you tried Claude code vscode plugin? It's has almost everything cursor has to offer

I've used Claude Code but not the vs code plugin. I get enough value from the auto-complete that I'll use Cursor regardless, but I don't think it's worth $20 for that.

But now it's subsidized so I easily spend over $50 of Claude credits for my $20 in Cursor.

Also the ability to swap out models is a big value add and I don't have to worry about latest and greatest. I switch seamlessly. Something comes out, next day its on Claude. So now I'm using GPT which is less than half the price. I don't want to have to think about it or constantly consider other options. I want a standardized interface and plug in whatever intelligence I want. Kind of like a dropbox that can worry about whether they store in AWS, Azure or GCP depending which one is the best value prop.

Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by m_busel »

super interesting breakdown. that being said, it's unclear to me if this is actually a problem outside of code gen. the labs have zeroed in on this use case since it's so obviously valuable but they're not going to launching products in every area.

also, yes, the labs control the supply but also there are many labs so there's lots of competition. they can't, for example, just jack up the prices on the dealers (apps) like a monopoly could. so again, not sure if being a dealer is actually bad here.

Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by hakanderyal »

thurn wrote: post #18

I think Cursor tab-completion is entirely in-house, right? That feature on its own is worth at least $5/month, it's super well done.

I’m paying $20/m just for tab, and willing to pay $40/m just to have it in Rider so I can return back to using single IDE.

Re: Claude is the drug, Cursor is the dealer

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Post by regularjack »

hakanderyal wrote: post #29
thurn wrote: post #18

I think Cursor tab-completion is entirely in-house, right? That feature on its own is worth at least $5/month, it's super well done.

I’m paying $20/m just for tab, and willing to pay $40/m just to have it in Rider so I can return back to using single IDE.

Doesn't Rider have JetBraims AI? It's basically the same thing as Cursor.
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