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GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by unethical_ban »

1attice wrote: post #209
pfisch wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody even knows about this, no one thinks "Microsoft, hell no, they are a key player in the gaza conflict." No one really associates human rights with Microsoft's reputation. That is the domain of Palantir, Meta, etc.

as a former MSFT employee (who quit for reasons, well before the layoffs) I am not permitted to disparage or portray my former employer in a negative light. I'm just mentioning this for no reason whatsoever. It popped into my head, for some reason.

That seems literally illegal, unless the disparagement would reference specific, classified programs.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by mightysashiman »

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

first time I've ever read "Microsoft" and "cool" in the same sentence.

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

pbiggar wrote: post #140
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Not just that, but Microsoft's reputation is in the process of taking a nose dive over its human rights record https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/06/microsoft-isra...

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Post by wirrbel »

BizarroLand wrote: post #177
throwaway290 wrote: post #156

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Wait Microsoft was cool at some point?

Windows 7 was pretty cool, and XP was practically unbeatable despite its many many flaws.

I always wonder at these attributions. Like all windows versions gave you bluescreen and ran Microsoft excel. To me not one stood out particularly bad or good compared to the others maybe after Windows 98 service pack something

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Post by yndoendo »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #242
sho_hn wrote: post #226

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> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

> but I'd say few tech people have been excited about Apple otherwise lately, as product or platform And probably fewer still consider switching to the alternatives. Apple is, for better or worse, usually the least bad option.

You have to pay me to use Apple, Microsoft, and Google products. None of those organizations are good.

Apple and Google both use immutable locked down OSes on their main products that prevents improving device security, such as IP & DNS filtering / blocking.

Microsoft user experience keeps getting worse. Latest version of Teams, as of today, says I'm at the "Calendar" screen and the navigation and content screen both show "Chat". "Calendar" was unpinned because I find Teams to be at interacting with content. No reason it should be a PDF viewer when the desktop application is actually usable allows for viewing chat and content at the same time.

I understand developing for those platforms makes money or is needed for other products. Unless I have to develop products that support those companies, I will never pay with my personal income to support those organizations.

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Post by rockemsockem »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #242
sho_hn wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

> but I'd say few tech people have been excited about Apple otherwise lately, as product or platform And probably fewer still consider switching to the alternatives. Apple is, for better or worse, usually the least bad option.

For hardware only

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Post by anthk »

riffraff wrote: post #127
waihtis wrote: post #104

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You really think Microsoft has been ”cool” for the past decade or so? First the rampant spyware, then they gradually wreck every single piece of software into unusable buggy AI-slop-mess just to play the trashy MBA valuation games. I still hold nostalgic value for the old OSes (say up to XP/7) but everything after has been nothing but maximal profit extraction. Dont get me started on Azure

Not OP, but I do. The '90s/00s era of people hating on M$ and picturing them as the Borg had left room to the 10s/20s of MS being "friendly" and releasing open source and free things (typescript, vs code, core.net, wsl, work on python etc) and not completely screwing up acquisitions like GitHub or Mojang. Windows became adware, and office became some crappy online thing, but _microsoft_ had became nicer and gained go…

Windows was already adware with WIndows 98. Active Desktop anyone?

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Post by zdw »

dijit wrote: post #121
icy wrote: post #13

Yeah, GitHub is cooked. Now's a good time to consider migrating to alternative forges like Tangled ( https://tangled.sh ; bit of a shameless plug, I'll admit. I'm the co-founder). We've got a more advanced PR flow, jujutsu change-id support and we just launched our in-house CI! https://blog.tangled.sh/ci Long-term, we aim to be the new social coding platform, collectively built in the open.

Tangled is a pretty cool idea, but I'm sorry to say that I'm hoping Gerrit gets a resurgence. It fits my "do one thing, do it well" philosophy as it doesn't have opinions about CI, Issue trackers or even how you view the code online. I'll admit that it's a nasty bastard to set up properly though, and the options for viewing repositories are universally terrible when not bundled with a code-review system (like Gitea,…

There are .rpm/.deb packages for Gerrit that make installation/upgrades pretty simple.

The fact that it stores everything in files on disk (no databases except for caches that can be regenerated) makes backup/restore and replication a breeze compared to many other more complicated systems.

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