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The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

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Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#101

Kind of life changing money, good to see such rewards

Depends on where in the world you are. I wouldn't call $250k life-changing-money anywhere developed.

It's "I can probably stop worrying about money for a while" kind of money, not "life-changing" money. Not a whole lot you can buy for $250k. After taxes, that probably doesn't even buy a house.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#102

"Decent." was the first word that came into my mind. After a second, I realized that 250,000 USD ist basically 0.00022 % of Alphabet's (Google's?) annual net income [0]. A life changing amount of money for an individual, but nothing more than a small blip on Google's charts. Of course, I'm aware of "budgets" and "departments", and that one simply does not move funds between departments. And while my mind is on the ve…

So someone found a way to exploit Chrome. Should Google now cash you out some dividends they got from Ads, YouTube, GCP, Pixel, Android and Waymo so they can really feel that it costs them an arm and a leg?

Suddenly incentives are there to apply as a Chrome developer is more lucrative than CxO position because one can produce bugs for friends to find.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#103

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the first time I got a bonus that big, $240k, I thought it would be life changing. the gov took $100k in taxes. I paid off my car $20k. then when I really thought about it there wasn’t much I could do. It was not a down payment on a house in LA/SF/NYC. it was not enough to start a company and hire people. If I’d changed my life style to be like a college student and live with roommates then it might have given me 2-3…

Depends where you live. Where I'm from $240k would buy you a really nice house with lots of land, and you'd have money left over. >>won’t likely change your life. Maybe you could put a down payment on a house or pay for your kids college tho but it not the freedom I thought it would be How is being able to put a down paymenent on a house or being able to send your kids to collage debt-free not life changing?

> How is being able to put a down paymenent on a house or being able to send your kids to collage debt-free not life changing?

Because neither of those are going to change your daily life that much? It simplifies a thing or two, but neither of those things are life-changing.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#104
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He had a pretty reliable exploit on the most used browser, pretty sure it he could have gotten more tax free on the black market. Now, with EDR widely deployed it's likely that the exploit usage ends up being caught sooner than later, but pretty sure some dictatorship intelligence agency would have found all those journalists deep compromise worthwhile...

Selling something to the black market doesn't magically make it tax free. It's almost the opposite. The money is going to show up in your auditable accounts sooner or later, so it's best to pay tax on it, but you'll also have to come up with a fake but auditable story of where it came from, meaning you'll have to engage the services of professional money launderers. They will also take a cut. So, it's like paying tax…

The money itself might not be dirty, couldn’t you just claim something like “I sold a secret, highly valuable algorithm to this guy”? Tax would still need to be paid of course

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#105

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Indeed, one of the great tragedies of life is that this happens. Humans cannot survive without water, yet the median water bill is $80, which is about 1% of the median household's income. People make so much money but refuse to pay for something that literally sustains their life. Join me in requiring that every household at least 10x the amount they pay for this precious water. To employees of water companies: Thank…

It's fun to twist the rules and put "business life" and "human life" on the same level, innit?

Indeed, I think human life is so much more precious and yet we barely even pay for something critical to it. Embarrassing.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#106
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He had a pretty reliable exploit on the most used browser, pretty sure it he could have gotten more tax free on the black market. Now, with EDR widely deployed it's likely that the exploit usage ends up being caught sooner than later, but pretty sure some dictatorship intelligence agency would have found all those journalists deep compromise worthwhile...

> pretty sure it he could have gotten more tax free on the black market.

How?

I've been paid by bug bounties (although not that big) and I have no idea how I would find a trustworthy criminal to sell to.

I guess I'd need to find a forum? Unless my opsec is exemplary then I'm risking being exposed. I'd need to vet that the buyer would actually pay me and not just steal it from me. Even if they do pay me, I'd be worried that they'd blackmail me or try to extract something from me. But assuming they're good black-marketeers, I still have to explain to the authorities where this large amount of cash came from.

So how do I go about selling to the black market in a safe way?

Oh, and I don't get to write a blog post about the bug or get my name in front of other researchers and recruiters. That can be worth a huge amount - both in cash and reputation.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#107
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According to Wikipedia, that's 0.012% of their net income. [0] While I'm being told in the comments that this is not the way to look at it, it means that this is, percentage wise, 50x the amount that Google is paying. Sounds fine to me. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation //Edit: Had a typo in my percentage. 20.000 of 157.000.000 is, indeed, 0.012% - that makes it 50x the amount of Google's percent…

Do you pay a software engineer for their time based on your revenue or his skill?

If you don't have the revenue, you don't pay them at all, because you don't actually employ them.

It's really no secret that higher revenue means higher potential pay/more devs...

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#108
post #106
post #14

He had a pretty reliable exploit on the most used browser, pretty sure it he could have gotten more tax free on the black market. Now, with EDR widely deployed it's likely that the exploit usage ends up being caught sooner than later, but pretty sure some dictatorship intelligence agency would have found all those journalists deep compromise worthwhile...

> pretty sure it he could have gotten more tax free on the black market. How? I've been paid by bug bounties (although not that big) and I have no idea how I would find a trustworthy criminal to sell to. I guess I'd need to find a forum? Unless my opsec is exemplary then I'm risking being exposed. I'd need to vet that the buyer would actually pay me and not just steal it from me. Even if they do pay me, I'd be worrie…

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Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#109
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It is crazy that anytime someone works on application layer and wants to manipulate string, which is a very, very common thing to do when writing application, one has to consider \0 which would be an implementation detail. How can that language still be so popular?

Okay, I want to make a desktop app that runs on Linux. Which language should I use? Java?

That questions is kind of the point I want to make. We live in 2025 and C is still an option for new applications, i.e wrong abstraction layer for application level development.

No doubt there are valid reasons to use it, that is just the state of things they are unfortunately.

Re: The Chrome VRP Panel has decided to award $250k for this report

#110
post #73

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According to Wikipedia, that's 0.012% of their net income. [0] While I'm being told in the comments that this is not the way to look at it, it means that this is, percentage wise, 50x the amount that Google is paying. Sounds fine to me. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation //Edit: Had a typo in my percentage. 20.000 of 157.000.000 is, indeed, 0.012% - that makes it 50x the amount of Google's percent…

Do you pay a software engineer for their time based on your revenue or his skill?

Be somewhat competitive to what such developers could get on the black market. Discounting the ethics.

Surely a bug on Chrome is worth more than a bug on Firefox.

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