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Nothing of value is at risk with this law. Privacy is of no value because you decided that porn is bad for me?
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Go after the people producing it. Stop bothering service and infrastructure providers. Doing that is either lazy or malicious.
Just because it is bad for you doesn't mean it should be illegal, adults should be able to do what they please even if it hurts them. So this is a pretty practical solution to protect the kids without infringing on adults freedom per se, because even if some adults lose access, as I said, nothing of value is lost.
Collecting hackable blackmail material on millions upon millions of adults is practical?
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#253Please also fight mandatory age verification with prison sentences. The European Parliament has already voted in favor of a law that mandates age verification for pornography with a one year prison sentence. It was included as a last minute amendment into this bill [1]. See "Amendment 186". It has been completely missed by news organizations and even interest groups. The full accepted article reads: "Disseminating po…
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Don’t you find it somewhat ironic that you created a throwaway to preserve your privacy in stating this opinion against privacy in browsing?
I agree with you that people should avoid using it, but I agree that the state should but out here. If you want to enforce this sort of thing, make it at the parental level.
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It sounds like it's "the maximum penalty must be at least 1 year", as in "your member state can't enact a law where the maximum penalty is less than 1 year". At least that's how I read it, but it's confusing.
This is correct. But the larger point is that even 1 minute of jail time for such "crimes" is unacceptable.
That larger point deserves its own thread. My newest pet peeve is someone jumping into the middle of a conversation with the equivalent of "I don't care about what you're talking about. What I want to talk about is more important".
Oh look, now you've got me doing it to you. Drat.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing of value is at risk with this law. Privacy is of no value because you decided that porn is bad for me?
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After something you don't like gets banned, how will you feel when some type of expression you DO like gets banned? Rock and roll music is next, then any words criticizing the state. As long as you agree with the flavor of fascism its okay, right?
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#256The end of anonymity online basically means an end to the internet era itself. We will effectively be rewinding time to the 1980s, when the only news sources were controlled by oligopolies, and dissident voices were simply not given a platform.
That might be fine in a world where every country is on-board, but now that the internet exists, countries with anonymous free speech will come out ahead.
Here's a darker thought: The pre-internet US and UK had a crime problem. Crime was spiking through the 1980s and 1990s. People were disaffected, jaded, they felt that the halls of power were captured by corruption and their voice didn't matter. This is the environment that gave us the original Robocop movie, a hyper-violent celebration of the commoner over both criminals and corrupt government institutions.
The internet economy revitalized the western world and helped us pull out of the crime doom spiral. Without that miracle, we were probably on track for ruthless Duterte-style governments, if not something worse like fascism.
Anyway, I predict that the EU will stop short of actually passing this into law. They're not stupid, and they just want "good boy points" for trying (not from the voters, of course, but people with real political power).
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#257In the US, we have government programs like PRISM and unchecked oligopolies that surveil us and use that information to identify dissent, sell us ads, and alter our behavior. In the EU, there are these initiatives to surveil us in the name of safety. Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?
> Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another? Covid authoritarian policies were hugely successful and supported by mainstream people by and large. Not enough protests. Not enough dissent. Now politicians know they can turn the power knob as high as they want and nothing will happen. Less and less dissent will be allowed, just like during covid. If you fail…
> Covid authoritarian policies were hugely successful and supported by mainstream people by and large.
They were temporary and saved lives. Keyword here is temporary.
Of course COVID denialists are angry at it but they won in the USA now so we'll be happy getting more deaths and disabilities now that they are removing our ability to vaccinate ourselves.
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#258Please also fight mandatory age verification with prison sentences. The European Parliament has already voted in favor of a law that mandates age verification for pornography with a one year prison sentence. It was included as a last minute amendment into this bill [1]. See "Amendment 186". It has been completely missed by news organizations and even interest groups. The full accepted article reads: "Disseminating po…
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Souls don't exist so it's fine I guess.
What's so bad about it? Production if often unethical and that's a problem but is there more? (and if production was the problem they wouldn't just put an age limit)
Is this about religion beliefs?
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#259Please also fight mandatory age verification with prison sentences. The European Parliament has already voted in favor of a law that mandates age verification for pornography with a one year prison sentence. It was included as a last minute amendment into this bill [1]. See "Amendment 186". It has been completely missed by news organizations and even interest groups. The full accepted article reads: "Disseminating po…
I personally support age verification for porn. However, age verification for almost anything else, e.g. Reddit, is a terrible idea.