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Re: Fight Chat Control

#161

In the US, we have government programs like PRISM and unchecked oligopolies that surveil us and use that information to identify dissent, sell us ads, and alter our behavior. In the EU, there are these initiatives to surveil us in the name of safety. Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?

> Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?

Covid authoritarian policies were hugely successful and supported by mainstream people by and large. Not enough protests. Not enough dissent.

Now politicians know they can turn the power knob as high as they want and nothing will happen. Less and less dissent will be allowed, just like during covid.

If you fail to learn that and denounce those and reclaim the freedoms for all, you're going to just whine into a smaller and smaller room.

Re: Fight Chat Control

#162
Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner?

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner?

Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

Re: Fight Chat Control

#163

So what is the real solution? Meaning the solution that an individual could use themselves, without further coordination, to insulate themselves from this policy. Is it an Android distribution? Jailbreaking? Custom builds?

You ask a valid and clear question, sadly no one yet properly responded :( I'll try: using an app that can communicate without ever connecting to the internet? Such as: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id6748584483

Re: Fight Chat Control

#164

God fucking damn it not again This is, what, the fifth time in ten years they try to pass shit like this?

The arrival of AI has made mass surveillance pass a certain threshold. Now we're just a step away from aristocrat heaven.

Yup super easy to moderate, monitor, and manipulate.

Watchlist? Easy.

Mislead? Easy.

We need to isolate this bad behavior ASAP.

Re: Fight Chat Control

#165

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

Making it illegal to use "non-compliant" e2ee services and prosecuting those who does. Realistically, they couldn't, but could ban such apps in EU stores, making them less popular.

They can break encryption by stealing keys from your device, or by pwning your device, or by introducing backdoor into the chat client for every user.

Re: Fight Chat Control

#166

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

They can fine apple and google for offering signal in their app stores, until nobody has it installed.

That doesn’t break your comms today - but later, you replace your phone, can you get a current copy of the app?

Re: Fight Chat Control

#167
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God fucking damn it not again This is, what, the fifth time in ten years they try to pass shit like this?

They generally don't and won't stop until there are real repercussions for that, like losing your political career/being canceled in society over voting for it.

Yup.

Having empathy for your neighbor, and working with those whom you disagree, are precursors. This gives power.

Then using power to enact consequences for businesses and governments (the people therein), fixes the problem.

Re: Fight Chat Control

#169

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

The idea isn't to break encryption, it's to have apps implement client-side scanning "pre-encryption".

Re: Fight Chat Control

#170

So what is the real solution? Meaning the solution that an individual could use themselves, without further coordination, to insulate themselves from this policy. Is it an Android distribution? Jailbreaking? Custom builds?

The real solution is to stop the law while it is still being negotiated.

In America our judicial system is sleeping and also overtly supporting anti democratic laws.
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