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The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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I'm waiting for the moment when all alive internet users will become AI-ified to test how to show them better ads. It's possible that all the necessary data is already there. In cloud storage plus those intrusive DBs for sale. Eventually someone will start selling accurate personas for $0.99.

I hate ads mostly because they are unbearable. If advertisers can figure out how to make bearable ads, I'm not against that.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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I've been submitting my dad's death certificate to Facebook for 4 years now. His account is still active and people still wish him happy birthday every year.

Facebook has a process for that. You have a dedicated proof, like death certificate, upload form, and the account is supposed to change into "in memoriam".

Their part of the process is not to give a shit.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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I'm unsure why dead people would have rights. Is that concept really a good thing?

If you're not a crude materialist, you can believe in eternal soul. Shouldn't we honor the dead, in that case?

Unless someone is hurt you can believe what you want. Otherwise it's necessary to weight what's to be gained and lost by entertaining net negative stances on frivolous grounds; and why we should then chose to do so.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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post #15

I'm waiting for the moment when all alive internet users will become AI-ified to test how to show them better ads. It's possible that all the necessary data is already there. In cloud storage plus those intrusive DBs for sale. Eventually someone will start selling accurate personas for $0.99.

I think a more interesting question is: At what point can we give an AI agent $100, set it free on the internet, come back in a week, and it'll have $1000?

Why would it come back?

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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post #15

I'm waiting for the moment when all alive internet users will become AI-ified to test how to show them better ads. It's possible that all the necessary data is already there. In cloud storage plus those intrusive DBs for sale. Eventually someone will start selling accurate personas for $0.99.

I suspect that in the near future, Meta will deploy advertisements where AI-generated images of persons who resemble, but are not identical to, an individual's friends and acquaintances are shown enjoying sponsored products.

That's terrifying, thanks. I'm sure dollar signs are lighting up in someone's eyes somewhere.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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When you’re dead, you don’t have rights anymore because you’re not a person anymore. Anything of value that survived your death- property, money, IP rights, etc. now are part of an estate which is administered and distributed according to your will and/or state law. Other than your state’s law and your will, it’s not up to you what happens to your stuff after you die. Artifacts of your existence that you did not own,…

The argument of likeness seems odd to me because there are at least a dozen people who might look almost exactly like you who are alive somewhere in the world. What if I give explicit permission to use my likeness but my lookalike demands it can't be used? We're both dead. Do my wishes not get respected because someone who looks like they could be my identical twin had other wishes? Whoever's estate has the deeper po…

To lawyers, “likeness”is a term of art and means much more than just how you look, including image, name, voice, and other identifiable features. Basically it’s what actors bring to contracts in addition to their labor.

I don’t claim to understand all the intricacies but it is the relevant term of art when discussing this topic from a legal perspective.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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When you’re dead, you don’t have rights anymore because you’re not a person anymore. Anything of value that survived your death- property, money, IP rights, etc. now are part of an estate which is administered and distributed according to your will and/or state law. Other than your state’s law and your will, it’s not up to you what happens to your stuff after you die. Artifacts of your existence that you did not own,…

I would like to pass on my GDPR rights over my data in my will. It already can be a struggle for others to use rights of others they legally hold, eg by legal documents like a death certificate. The law (EU+UK at least) is adaptable and extendable, but the data holders aren't.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you agree with all the privacy invasive opt-out features in every commercial service?

I see that as a bit different, since we are talking about something posthumous here. Privacy is important while we're alive because it can have an impact on our future life. In death, we live on for the sake of our loved ones and the future of humanity, or at least that's how I see it.

Do others have a moral duty to allow businesses to exploit their likenesses the moment they die?
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