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The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that in the near future, Meta will deploy advertisements where AI-generated images of persons who resemble, but are not identical to, an individual's friends and acquaintances are shown enjoying sponsored products.

"Your grandfather loved using Harry's to groom his private parts!"

He hooked up with Grandma, so it must work!

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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When you’re dead, you don’t have rights anymore because you’re not a person anymore. Anything of value that survived your death- property, money, IP rights, etc. now are part of an estate which is administered and distributed according to your will and/or state law. Other than your state’s law and your will, it’s not up to you what happens to your stuff after you die. Artifacts of your existence that you did not own,…

The argument of likeness seems odd to me because there are at least a dozen people who might look almost exactly like you who are alive somewhere in the world.

What if I give explicit permission to use my likeness but my lookalike demands it can't be used? We're both dead. Do my wishes not get respected because someone who looks like they could be my identical twin had other wishes? Whoever's estate has the deeper pockets?

See photography by François Brunelle. The similarities went past appearances too. Many of the stranger dopplegangers had similar hobbies and even similar personalities. So if an AI recreation looks like me, acts like me, and has the same hobbies as me that means nothing unless someone is trying to claim it is me (rather my likeness).

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Your grandfather loved using Harry's to groom his private parts!"

He hooked up with Grandma, so it must work!

It's easy to forget what hotties they both were when they were young.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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post #49

When you’re dead, you don’t have rights anymore because you’re not a person anymore. Anything of value that survived your death- property, money, IP rights, etc. now are part of an estate which is administered and distributed according to your will and/or state law. Other than your state’s law and your will, it’s not up to you what happens to your stuff after you die. Artifacts of your existence that you did not own,…

I dont think this is actually true? You can, namely, write a will. You can choose what is done with your possesions, presumably including destroying them. Iirc there's a rule called the law against perpetuities, where you have control over your estate via the will, maximally until some time after the death of a specific named person who was alive at the time of your death. (which I find a strange stipulation)

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but it definitely should not be automatic. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority would not choose to have their online information erased posthumously.

Do you agree with all the privacy invasive opt-out features in every commercial service?

I see that as a bit different, since we are talking about something posthumous here. Privacy is important while we're alive because it can have an impact on our future life. In death, we live on for the sake of our loved ones and the future of humanity, or at least that's how I see it.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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I'm unsure why dead people would have rights. Is that concept really a good thing?

The dead already have many rights: - right to control distribution of property through a will - right to control method of remains disposal (up to a point) - right to dignified treatment (e.g. no desecration of the remains) - rights against posthumous defamation- rights to control how their likeness, name, and image are used posthumously I fail to understand how this proposal would be any different.

Sure, I am quite against all of them already:

The first one has been argued against quite nicely by Piketty, it's how you get plutocracy

The three other ones should not be treated as Rights since the concerned individual is no more, and they don't matter much anyway if coming against the rights of people (that means "living"). For instance collecting organs for the good of those who need, when evaluated, should trump any opposition on frivolous grounds.

I'm indead asking if the whole concept is not wrong and deeply harmful to societies

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