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The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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The idea of someone AI-ifying me posthumously is gross, but deleting all record of me would be even worse.

I had been wondering about the philosophical ramifications of torturing a ChatGPT persona. (I'm surprised I haven't seen more of that.) Now we can do it to our enemies.

If you believed that it's an AGI then this would be an evil thing to do, even though your belief was false.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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I'm waiting for the moment when all alive internet users will become AI-ified to test how to show them better ads. It's possible that all the necessary data is already there. In cloud storage plus those intrusive DBs for sale. Eventually someone will start selling accurate personas for $0.99.

The only thing stopping that right now is that that's pretty expensive at scale. The research about using AIs to "nudge" people, the research that AIs can far more accurately determine your tastes than currently-used profiling techniques, all that is already in place and it's obvious how to take the next steps.

Jury's still out on whether AI is actually going to be a net benefit to humanity, or if the AIs will be so firmly under the thumb of their owners that eventually the only rational thing to do will be to disregard everything that may have come from them because you can presumptively assume that everything coming from them is for the owner's benefit and not yours.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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post #15

I'm waiting for the moment when all alive internet users will become AI-ified to test how to show them better ads. It's possible that all the necessary data is already there. In cloud storage plus those intrusive DBs for sale. Eventually someone will start selling accurate personas for $0.99.

This already happens, it is just the base model plus some in context data.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time."

All of us will be forgotten eventually after you great-grandkids forget about you. What's the point in trying to keep your name alive when you'll be too dead to care? Focus on the life you live not the one after your death.

Why? Being dead is inconvenient, but I don't see why I should stop achieving things at that point. Indeed it might be a good time to start.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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post #15

I'm waiting for the moment when all alive internet users will become AI-ified to test how to show them better ads. It's possible that all the necessary data is already there. In cloud storage plus those intrusive DBs for sale. Eventually someone will start selling accurate personas for $0.99.

I think a more interesting question is: At what point can we give an AI agent $100, set it free on the internet, come back in a week, and it'll have $1000?

Because it killed 5 people for $200 each by shutting off their CPAP machines?

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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I'm unsure why dead people would have rights. Is that concept really a good thing?

The dead already have many rights:

- right to control distribution of property through a will

- right to control method of remains disposal (up to a point)

- right to dignified treatment (e.g. no desecration of the remains)

- rights against posthumous defamation- rights to control how their likeness, name, and image are used posthumously

I fail to understand how this proposal would be any different.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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When you’re dead, you don’t have rights anymore because you’re not a person anymore.

Anything of value that survived your death- property, money, IP rights, etc. now are part of an estate which is administered and distributed according to your will and/or state law. Other than your state’s law and your will, it’s not up to you what happens to your stuff after you die.

Artifacts of your existence that you did not own, like your extended family’s home movies or that time TV news caught you in the background or your friends’ photos, don’t belong to you (never did) so I’m not sure you can do anything about that, and it poses an interesting question of whether your likeness could be reconstructed from artifacts that are not part of your estate.

It would probably be worth having a law that says that your likeness is part of your estate, and then it can be covered by estate law.

Of course right now you could probably sign a contract giving rights to use of your likeness, and have terms and conditions that would cover post-death scenarios ; I have heard that some celebrities are already entering into such contracts for money.

Re: The dead need right to delete their data so they can't be AI-ified, lawyer says

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When you’re dead, you don’t have rights anymore because you’re not a person anymore. Anything of value that survived your death- property, money, IP rights, etc. now are part of an estate which is administered and distributed according to your will and/or state law. Other than your state’s law and your will, it’s not up to you what happens to your stuff after you die. Artifacts of your existence that you did not own,…

Denmark to tackle deepfakes by giving people copyright to their own features - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/deepfakes... - June 27th, 2025

As you mention, if copyright law codifies the rights, it then becomes trivial to stick the property rights to self into a trust or other post death entity for the estate to administer and enforce. The nation state policy is the hard part.

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