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Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by scarface_74 »

magicmicah85 wrote: post #37
rco8786 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a sitting President publicly calling for the CEO of either of those companies to resign. That was my original "norm" I stated. What has gotten more specific about that?

Publicly or privately, why is one fine and the other not?

The other hopefully happens after the President and his advisors talk behind the scenes. This isn’t a Republican vs Democrat thing. Republican presidents never did this before.

And that happened as part of the government bailing GM out.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by joules77 »

rco8786 wrote: post #8
tptacek wrote: post #7

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Eh. Without getting anywhere near the merits of this particular fracas, the federal government has gotten deeply involved in critiquing the management of companies like Lockheed and Boeing, both for national security reasons and because of the importance of those companies to the economy. Easy to see Intel fitting into that mold in 2025.

I don’t recall a sitting President publicly calling for the CEO of either of those companies to resign. Please let’s not sanewash what is happening right now.

Look up the Teddy Roosevelt era. Before his election and after he leaves.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

cnst wrote: post #38
jjcm wrote: post #5

It's honestly wild that a sitting US president is calling out specific company CEOs. The fact that it was done in a tweet-esque post is even more concerning. I'd expect that something like this would have been accompanied by a proper investigation and writeup stating the administration's perspective on why, but instead it's just "he's highly CONFLICTED". I don't debate his history at Cadence Design is concerning from…

Like this? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/qwest-ceo-nsa-punished... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6033113

Stupid flamebait.

Not a sitting president and the NSA doesn't need a warrant for foreign targets.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

tptacek wrote: post #40
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #34

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Yeah, it seems like a lot of hot air to prop up a false equivalency.

I suggest not asking questions you don't want the answers to.

I suggest not normalizing Trump's behaviors by creating false equivalencies.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by rco8786 »

magicmicah85 wrote: post #37
rco8786 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a sitting President publicly calling for the CEO of either of those companies to resign. That was my original "norm" I stated. What has gotten more specific about that?

Publicly or privately, why is one fine and the other not?

I'll answer this in earnest, assuming you're asking in good faith.

The president commands an enormous amount of power, and has an army of people who will do his bidding and simply adopt his opinions on any number of subjects. Shouting out to millions of his followers to state that the CEO of a private company is "CONFLICTED" and must resign is, by any definition, propaganda. Propaganda that changes the minds of the citizens of the country, riles up the base, and does nothing productive except to stoke anger and fear.

Working privately with this CEO, having a professional discussion with him, investigating the facts, determining that the best course of action for national security would be for him to step down, and maybe even putting some political pressure on that person to do so, and then publicly announcing the facts of what happened, is responsible governance.

It's genuinely an enormous difference.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by fundad »

jjcm wrote: post #5

It's honestly wild that a sitting US president is calling out specific company CEOs. The fact that it was done in a tweet-esque post is even more concerning. I'd expect that something like this would have been accompanied by a proper investigation and writeup stating the administration's perspective on why, but instead it's just "he's highly CONFLICTED". I don't debate his history at Cadence Design is concerning from…

They may have dropped the name China Initiative but all this tough talk on China (and immigration) primes the public to believe the worst.

https://apnews.com/article/business-china-asia-beijing-race-...

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by tptacek »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #44
tptacek wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest not asking questions you don't want the answers to.

I suggest not normalizing Trump's behaviors by creating false equivalencies.

I'm interested in what's actually happening, not how it feeds the narrative about Trump. We saw the same thing yesterday with a dozen people on HN het up about how the Library of Congress Annotated Constitution had removed Habeas from its online copy of the Constitution (along with the Navy, letters of marque and reprisal, and the No Favored Ports clause) and people said the same thing there: stop claiming this was just a website fuckup and normalizing Trump!

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by magicmicah85 »

rco8786 wrote: post #45
magicmicah85 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publicly or privately, why is one fine and the other not?

I'll answer this in earnest, assuming you're asking in good faith. The president commands an enormous amount of power, and has an army of people who will do his bidding and simply adopt his opinions on any number of subjects. Shouting out to millions of his followers to state that the CEO of a private company is "CONFLICTED" and must resign is, by any definition, propaganda. Propaganda that changes the minds of the c…

I am asking in good faith and I understand why there would be a preference towards private versus public. It sounds like Trump does not care to attempt a private conversation as he wants Tan out. The Cadence settlement is likely the only public info we have about Tan's conflicts, the government has more info and they aren't going to spend time working through private channels, though it sounds like Tan is trying that now.

Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by everfrustrated »

scarface_74 wrote: post #39
emchammer wrote: post #20

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Thank god Apple has been putting their eggs in their home-woven ARM basket. Now I just wish that they had a CEO who was above golden-trophy ass-kissing.

I hate everything that Cook is doing to kiss up to Trump and he did something similar during the first administration by letting Trump brag about final assembly of low selling Mac Pros was happening in the US. But this is the country that the US wants (said as a born and bred US citizen) these are the results of it. Every CEO is kissing Trumps ass because that’s the only way you get ahead in the US now. The media, th…

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Re: A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

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Post by landl0rd »

tengwar2 wrote: post #24
emchammer wrote: post #20

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Thank god Apple has been putting their eggs in their home-woven ARM basket. Now I just wish that they had a CEO who was above golden-trophy ass-kissing.

Partly home-made. Arm Holdings is British-based, but owned by Softbank Group (Japanese).

Apple still holds the license to the arm arches/designs they've used. There's enough customization applied that I'd guess Apple could function absent ARM, even if it's not the ideal scenario for them.

Plus Britain and Japan are both somewhere between close allies and client states. Nobody cares if we license from them.

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