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Re: Windows XP Professional

#152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you just don't like how it looks, or is there something else wrong with it?

It's just moving, it gives no actual indication of progress.

Back in the dark ages, "idiot dots" or "idiot marks" was a phrase I heard for the various text terminal equivalents.

It would cycle through a small number of text values with some kind of backspace/overwrite to keep things localized to where the cursor ought to be.

One version was a variable length ellipses: . .. ... that would grow and reset in place.

Another was an expanding "dot": . o O that would cycle in place as one character.

And the early "spinner" was: - \ | / that would cycle in place as one character. Hmm, not sure this will render properly on HN but it is hyphen, backslash, pipe, forward slash.

Re: Windows XP Professional

#153
God I miss Windows XP. I feel like, with a few small changes, the Windows XP GUI would be the most solid desktop experience you could possibly have.

Throw in POSIX compliance/bash, first party Linux compatibility (not WSL), window snapping, dark mode, maybe a spotlight-like search and a few enhancements to the file manager and you'd have a pretty much perfect desktop/productivity OS.

Why can't we have nice things?

Re: Windows XP Professional

#154

God I miss Windows XP. I feel like, with a few small changes, the Windows XP GUI would be the most solid desktop experience you could possibly have. Throw in POSIX compliance/bash, first party Linux compatibility (not WSL), window snapping, dark mode, maybe a spotlight-like search and a few enhancements to the file manager and you'd have a pretty much perfect desktop/productivity OS. Why can't we have nice things?

Feels like you just want Cinnamon with maybe 1 or two more polished features?

Re: Windows XP Professional

#155

How can you tell that any Windows or Mac clone UI is a re-implementation? Easy: try to move your mouse diagonally into the Send To menu after letting it pop up. If the send-to menu closes as you mouse over the item into the submenu, it's a clone. If the menu stays up even if you brush over another menu item, it's either real or a Good Clone. :) For the fun history, @DonHopkins had a thread a few years back: https://n…

You can also right-click the desktop and choose 'Properties'. If the resulting window has a tab called 'Screesaver', it's a clone.

Re: Windows XP Professional

#156
post #154

God I miss Windows XP. I feel like, with a few small changes, the Windows XP GUI would be the most solid desktop experience you could possibly have. Throw in POSIX compliance/bash, first party Linux compatibility (not WSL), window snapping, dark mode, maybe a spotlight-like search and a few enhancements to the file manager and you'd have a pretty much perfect desktop/productivity OS. Why can't we have nice things?

Feels like you just want Cinnamon with maybe 1 or two more polished features?

I daily drive Linux and deeply appreciate the fact that pretty much everything (at least in the DE space) is developed for free by people donating their time - so don't take this the wrong way.

...but I've yet to experience the level of DE stability you get from Windows XP/7

That also applies to Windows 11 (low bar, I know) and MacOS.

It is getting much better and that's happening very quickly - but there is always some jank.

For instance, dragging a Chrome tab off the current window to create a new window. The various file managers in Linux (dolphin, files, thunar) fall short (also MacOS Finder is an actual joke).

Also matching glibc versions when distributing software is a bit tedious

Re: Windows XP Professional

#157

How can you tell that any Windows or Mac clone UI is a re-implementation? Easy: try to move your mouse diagonally into the Send To menu after letting it pop up. If the send-to menu closes as you mouse over the item into the submenu, it's a clone. If the menu stays up even if you brush over another menu item, it's either real or a Good Clone. :) For the fun history, @DonHopkins had a thread a few years back: https://n…

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Re: Windows XP Professional

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post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple users on a same machine out of the box and way faster boot time. Didn't care for the UI, though - looked childish...

Win2K did multiple users more or less the same, the only difference I remember from XP is the login screen that would list all accounts so you didn't have to type the username. As for UI, it was very easy to switch to classic mode.

> Win2K did multiple users more or less the same

No, it didn't. You had to use some 3rd party software for that.

Re: Windows XP Professional

#159

How can you tell that any Windows or Mac clone UI is a re-implementation? Easy: try to move your mouse diagonally into the Send To menu after letting it pop up. If the send-to menu closes as you mouse over the item into the submenu, it's a clone. If the menu stays up even if you brush over another menu item, it's either real or a Good Clone. :) For the fun history, @DonHopkins had a thread a few years back: https://n…

I love reading about old UI interface guidelines, and how much research was done to make it useful to the user. Now it's all about how to make it useful to the company. Anyway, the links in that post have deteriorated. Here's the link to Raymond Chen's blog: https://web.archive.org/web/20190218080905/https://blogs.msd... (shame on MS for redirecting you to another page when showing you a 404, which make it harder to…

As a side note: With the Internet (and myself) getting older and older, I appreciate the effort of the Internet Archive more and more. So many links I was able to revive thanks to a cached version. So many of my own works I was able to retrieve. It's a blessing, and not praised enough.

(Only ignorant fools would start to fight it.)

Re: Windows XP Professional

#160

How can you tell that any Windows or Mac clone UI is a re-implementation? Easy: try to move your mouse diagonally into the Send To menu after letting it pop up. If the send-to menu closes as you mouse over the item into the submenu, it's a clone. If the menu stays up even if you brush over another menu item, it's either real or a Good Clone. :) For the fun history, @DonHopkins had a thread a few years back: https://n…

You can also right-click the desktop and choose 'Properties'. If the resulting window has a tab called 'Screesaver', it's a clone.

Or you can look at the start button. If it has an uppercase S, and the rest of the system is in English, it’s a clone.
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