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The Whispering Earring

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Re: The Whispering Earring

#41
> It is not a taskmaster, telling you what to do in order to achieve some foreign goal. It always tells you what will make you happiest....The earring is never wrong.

> There are no recorded cases of a wearer regretting following the earring’s advice, and there are no recorded cases of a wearer not regretting disobeying the earring. The earring is always right.

> ...The wearer lives an abnormally successful life, usually ending out as a rich and much-beloved pillar of the community with a large and happy family.

> Niderion-nomai’s commentary: It is well that we are so foolish, or what little freedom we have would be wasted on us. It is for this that Book of Cold Rain says one must never take the shortest path between two points.

The piece implies that

1. at least occasionally one should choose to do something one will regret.

2. not knowing what will make one happy is part of what makes one free.

I'm not sure I agree with these (it seems that 1. is a paradox) but it is an interesting thought experiment.

Re: The Whispering Earring

#42
I'm not actually sure how horrifying this is. It sounds like it's just a better executive planner to achieve your goals. As long as they are still your goals, surely you'd want the best executive planner available. I would say it's the goals that are important, not the limited way in which I work out how to achieve them.

It would certainly be horrifying if I were slowly tricked into giving up my goals and values, but that doesn't seem to be what is happening in this story.

Perhaps if I were to put the earring on it would tell me it would be better for me to keep wearing it.

Re: The Whispering Earring

#43

> It is not a taskmaster, telling you what to do in order to achieve some foreign goal. It always tells you what will make you happiest....The earring is never wrong. > There are no recorded cases of a wearer regretting following the earring’s advice, and there are no recorded cases of a wearer not regretting disobeying the earring. The earring is always right. > ...The wearer lives an abnormally successful life, usu…

> at least occasionally one should choose to do something one will regret.

Not necessarily. My take was that the practice of choosing may well be more valuable than the harm of the occasional regretted choice.

Re: The Whispering Earring

#44

> It is not a taskmaster, telling you what to do in order to achieve some foreign goal. It always tells you what will make you happiest....The earring is never wrong. > There are no recorded cases of a wearer regretting following the earring’s advice, and there are no recorded cases of a wearer not regretting disobeying the earring. The earring is always right. > ...The wearer lives an abnormally successful life, usu…

I think it's less confusing when you consider the very first thing the earring says: "better for you if you take me off". The wearer should rationally always regret not following its advice, including that first thing.

I think the paradox is here, and it comes from cheeky use of misleading language:

> ...The wearer lives an abnormally successful life, usually ending out as a rich and much-beloved pillar of the community with a large and happy family.

The wearer doesn't really live any sort of life. Once it fully integrates with you your brain is mush, you're no longer experiencing anything. At some fuzzy point in there you've basically died and been replaced by the earring.

Re: The Whispering Earring

#45
That's a cute story, I certainly like its tone of mystery.

However, the premise seems a bit wrong (or at least the narrator is wrong). If your brain actually degenerates from usage of the ring (and is no longer used in daily life, acting only reflexively), the premise that you are the happiest from following the ring might be flat out wrong. I think happiness (I tend to think in terms of well-being, which let's say ranks every good thing you can feel, by definition -- and assume the "good" is something philosophically infinitely wise) is probably something like a whole-brain or at least a-lot-of-brain phenomenon. It's not just a result of what you see or what you have in life. In fact I'm sure two persons can have very similar external conditions and wildly different internal lives (for an obvious example compare the bed-ridden man who spends his day on beautiful dreams, and the other who is depressed or in despair).

What the ring seems to do is to put you in situations where you would be the happiest, if only you were not wearing the earring.

The earring that actually guides you toward a better inner life perhaps offers only very minimal and strategic advice. Perhaps that's what the 'Lotus octohedral earring' does :)

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#46
I read a science fiction story (maybe 40 years ago in Analog?) about a somewhat similar device that provided life guidance. This device would detect if the choice you were currently making would likely result in your death and would flash a red light to warn you. (Something about using quantum multi-worlds to determine if you die.) Does this story ring a bell with anyone?

Re: The Whispering Earring

#47

> It is not a taskmaster, telling you what to do in order to achieve some foreign goal. It always tells you what will make you happiest....The earring is never wrong. > There are no recorded cases of a wearer regretting following the earring’s advice, and there are no recorded cases of a wearer not regretting disobeying the earring. The earring is always right. > ...The wearer lives an abnormally successful life, usu…

> at least occasionally one should choose to do something one will regret.

Negative experience is crucial for learning, unfortunately. "If you never fail you don't try hard enough", etc. This is trivially understood in physical training: you have to get yourself exhausted to become stronger. It's much less of an accepted view in, so to say, mental training: doing thing that you later regret may teach you something valuable that always avoiding such decisions does not.

I do not necessarily support or reject this view, I'm just trying to clarify the point.

Re: The Whispering Earring

#48
post #46

I read a science fiction story (maybe 40 years ago in Analog ?) about a somewhat similar device that provided life guidance. This device would detect if the choice you were currently making would likely result in your death and would flash a red light to warn you. (Something about using quantum multi-worlds to determine if you die.) Does this story ring a bell with anyone?

Not that story specifically, but maybe a modern reinterpretation of it was [this episode of Rick and Morty](https://rickandmorty.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Crystal).

Re: The Whispering Earring

#50
Two points I liked:

1. I like that the first bit of advice is to take it off. It's very interesting that in this story very few people take its advice.

2. It recommends whatever would make you happiest in that moment, but not what would make the best version of yourself happiest, or what would maximize happiness in the long term.

Solving mazes requires some backtracking, I guess. Doing whatever will make you happiest in the moment won't make you happiest in the long run.

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