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Introducing the 4chan API

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Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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I feel kinda silly just having spent the long weekend writing a threaded 4chan scraper. This is a super welcome change though. Even if you don't visit 4chan regularly you can't ignore the VAST amount of content people upload there. I imagine some interesting statistics will come of this ( I know I plan to).

I don't know. Getting an API to 4chan is like getting a parking pass to the local garbage dump. What statistics are you actually mining here?

Coming from the country where needing a parking permit to the garbage dump is the norm (i.e. only way to get rid of your trash) and can actually be a desirable activity (I can't even tell you how many books, monitors, speakers, etc. I've either restored or recovered in perfect condition for no cost)... I can't wait!

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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post #6

I feel kinda silly just having spent the long weekend writing a threaded 4chan scraper. This is a super welcome change though. Even if you don't visit 4chan regularly you can't ignore the VAST amount of content people upload there. I imagine some interesting statistics will come of this ( I know I plan to).

I don't know. Getting an API to 4chan is like getting a parking pass to the local garbage dump. What statistics are you actually mining here?

Garbage dump? /b/ is bad, but 4chan as a whole has some pretty good content.

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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Probably not. Since we don't have user accounts, and already have a bit of a spam problem, I'd be pretty worried about what a real POST API might bring.

What if you charged for it? (Not saying this is a good idea, just that it's an idea.)

Charging for spam just means spammers buy accounts to post spam...

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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> I'd say the fact that your posts are most likely to be forgotten, even if it is archived, is much more of a negative aspect of the site than a positive. This is the most magical aspect of 4chan, which is why I don't care for archives.

> This is the most magical aspect of 4chan, which is why I don't care for archives. The written word allows us to lend ideas (memes, concepts, what have you) a sense of permanence that they never would have had otherwise. But at the same time, it prevents them from evolving in a way they otherwise might have, if their exact origins were not so easily recorded & referenced. I don't think it's a coincidence that 4chan,…

>The written word allows us to lend ideas (memes, concepts, what have you) a sense of permanence that they never would have had otherwise.

I agree, and that's why it was horrible for 4chan. In the beginning, there were new memes, concepts, and what have you every other day, and old stuff was forgotten (or rather used to show you'd been there for a while.) Now, it's just a constant recycling of the first few years of the site.

IMHO it was caused by archives and meme dictionaries. No need to lurk moar anymoar. Also, very little reason to laugh.

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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I don't know. Getting an API to 4chan is like getting a parking pass to the local garbage dump. What statistics are you actually mining here?

There is plenty of excellent content (consequently, statistics), you just have to look a little harder. I would hazard a guess that you've taken a quick glance and dismissed the entire community. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Let me know when, say, /tg/ stops casually tossing around f-g and f-ggot while pretending that's not at all homophobic.

Garbage dump is entirely appropriate. I have no idea how anyone older than 20 can tolerate 4chan.

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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This could transform 4chan as mobile and desktop clients are created. God I hate the web interface.

There are already mobile clients for android and, IIRC there were clients for iOS but were banned from the app store due to some kind of infringement (I think it was adult content)

So I don't think a lot of stuff is going to change, excluding the diminishing server load that happened with old clients/extensions.

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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There is plenty of excellent content (consequently, statistics), you just have to look a little harder. I would hazard a guess that you've taken a quick glance and dismissed the entire community. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Let me know when, say, /tg/ stops casually tossing around f-g and f-ggot while pretending that's not at all homophobic. Garbage dump is entirely appropriate. I have no idea how anyone older than 20 can tolerate 4chan.

If you really think the use of fag and faggot reflects homophobia, you need to take a step back and look at where you are - the internet. Do you think that people posting gore do it because they enjoy the content? It's all shock value.

Re: Introducing the 4chan API

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You've mentioned before that you visit 4chan every day. Do you visit any text boards? I guess it's my own fault for fighting against the nature of the site, but sometimes I try to go the extra mile and put some effort into a post, and feel like no one even notices when I do. It's very discouraging for a conversation to have long since moved on by the time you've posted, or for a person you were trying to help to have…

That really sounds like a job for a niche subreddit with a throwaway account, not a 4chan BBS.

I guess you kind of answered the question I had in mind. Most "western" people seem to see anonymity or even pseudoanonymity as something you use when you have something to hide, something you don't want traced back to you. Everything else, they don't seem to mind having their real name (or a pseudonym that they make little attempt to disguise) attached to. Or, on a different level, people believe that you need to have some kind of identity that you care about, a reputation that you want to uphold, to keep discussion civil and meaningful, and that this should be the key element differentiating an online community.

On the other hand, the default in my mind is anonymous discussion. You only don a pseudonym or reveal your true identity when it's actually relevant to the conversation, and immediately stop when it isn't -- people usually don't care about who I am, but they might care about what I have to say. As an example of this, I've browsed Hacker News daily for over a year now, and just recently got around to creating an account. I still feel uneasy about it, even though I'm posting with nothing but a pseudonym, and not posting about anything that I would particularly care about having traced back to me. I doubt Hacker News would have the same culture if it had allowed anonymous posting, but I certainly would have started contributing much earlier if I didn't have to create a pseudo-identity to do so.

It's important to note that while it might be true that Reddit serves as the West's 2chan, the two deliver markedly different experiences. 2chan being as enormous as it is (millions of posts per day) should indicate to you that there is some itch that a giant collection of anonymous textboards can scratch that Reddit can't.

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