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Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by SwiftyBug »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #9

The official website has an interesting footer > As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. On one hand I applaud that their community standards are inclusive, but on the other hand, it shou…

The Gleam community has been the best, most welcoming community I've ever seen on the internet. And I've been a around for a while. I attribute this in part to their clear stance.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #9

The official website has an interesting footer > As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. On one hand I applaud that their community standards are inclusive, but on the other hand, it shou…

I used to be on the fence with this, finding the ideology-forward attitude fairly abrasive. I've since decided that while I don't love it, I see the perceived necessity of it that some people have. I enjoy the privilege of living somewhere and being a person who no one cares to cause problems for. Some people don't have that experience, and are targeted routinely and unfairly. I see it like they put up these barriers and deterrences because they need to, not just that they want to. People who support them participate in that endeavour because it matters enough.

For guys like me, it seems like a needless distraction from what matters. Unless I consider living a life in which there are people who don't want me to exist, or something. Then yeah, I might throw up a few "please fuck off" signs, I don't know.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

SwiftyBug wrote: post #11
ASalazarMX wrote: post #9

The official website has an interesting footer > As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. On one hand I applaud that their community standards are inclusive, but on the other hand, it shou…

The Gleam community has been the best, most welcoming community I've ever seen on the internet. And I've been a around for a while. I attribute this in part to their clear stance.

I was welcomed too, and strongly encouraged to contribute. It was really nice. Though the signals might appear abrasive to some, it doesn't represent an abrasive group of people at all.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by lpil »

Alupis wrote: post #8
ZpJuUuNaQ5 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's just so elegant to read and write. Interesting. I was just about to write the opposite. I tried Gleam to solve last year's Advent of Code, and it felt like a weird mix between Rust and Elixir. You can't write code as elegantly as you'd do in Elixir, which was somewhat disappointing. I switched back to Elixir after a couple of days. I think the biggest advantage of Gleam is static type system.

Depending when this was, it was likely pre-1.x days? Things moved very quickly there for a while - it's worth checking back in again. Gleam seems to have a lot of obvious influences from Rust, and the creator is a rust dev. While the Gleam ecosystem is vastly less mature than Elixir's or Rust's (because it's literally younger), the language itself, I've found, is vastly more pleasant to read/write. YMMV of course.

> Gleam seems to have a lot of obvious influences from Rust, and the creator is a rust dev.

Hi! That's me!

Gleam the language doesn't have any Rust influence really. It's a happy accident that some of the syntax ended up looking the same, but that's likely due to both being inspired by similar languages such as OCaml and the C family. Most the syntax and the semantics predate Gleam's compiler being rewritten in Rust.

The build tool is a rip-off of Cargo for sure though.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by lpil »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #9

The official website has an interesting footer > As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. On one hand I applaud that their community standards are inclusive, but on the other hand, it shou…

> It shouldn't be that blatantly ideological from the get go. It's just another programming language, not a political platform.

It's first and foremost a community, and it's important for communities to have clear a code of conduct and moderation of that code.

There are lots of languages without community, Gleam is not one of those.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by tuttigachimuchi »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #9

The official website has an interesting footer > As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. On one hand I applaud that their community standards are inclusive, but on the other hand, it shou…

Programming languages aren’t math—they are cultural products that have the right to express their values and objectives

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by thijsvandien »

Alupis wrote: post #2

Some highlights from this release are listed here[1]. The best part of Gleam in my opinion is the language's design. It's just so elegant to read and write. Take this example code snippet from the release notes: pub fn find_book() -> Result(Book, LibraryError) { case ask_for_isbn() { Error(error) -> Error(error) Ok(isbn) -> load_book(isbn) } } It's a trivial code snippet, but I'm finding this kind of "first class" pa…

Error(error) -> Error(error) has strong if err != nil { return err; } vibes, and I don't consider that a good thing.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by turnsout »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #9

The official website has an interesting footer > As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more. Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. On one hand I applaud that their community standards are inclusive, but on the other hand, it shou…

Being anti-nazi is not ideological.

Re: Gleam v1.12

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Post by Alupis »

thijsvandien wrote: post #18
Alupis wrote: post #2

Some highlights from this release are listed here[1]. The best part of Gleam in my opinion is the language's design. It's just so elegant to read and write. Take this example code snippet from the release notes: pub fn find_book() -> Result(Book, LibraryError) { case ask_for_isbn() { Error(error) -> Error(error) Ok(isbn) -> load_book(isbn) } } It's a trivial code snippet, but I'm finding this kind of "first class" pa…

Error(error) -> Error(error) has strong if err != nil { return err; } vibes, and I don't consider that a good thing.

This is a trivial snippet. Often you will transform/map your error into another type (or deal with it in some way), so it's not so much `if err != nil { return err; }` vibes like you're thinking here.

The beauty here is being compelled to handle both the happy and sad paths. You cannot just pretend the sad path doesn't exist.

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