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Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by saagarjha »

thewebguyd wrote: post #121
yupyupyups wrote: post #48

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>and as we all know that'll be the end of the world. I'll enjoy seeing all the accounts on MacRumors clawing their eyes out when that happens. It would be naive to think that Apple isn't funding sites and narratives on the internet to serve their economic interests. One of the most outlandish one being that freedom to use your phone however you want would necessarily compromise security and privacy for everyone. It's…

> One of the most outlandish one being that freedom to use your phone however you want would necessarily compromise security and privacy for everyone. I suppose in a round-a-bout way, it could, more specifically around iMessage, which is Apple's baby in the US and a big part of their lock in effect for US users. Right now, you can reasonably assume that using iMessage with another iPhone user that both ends are reaso…

You could be talking to someone who has a Mac, though.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by Alupis »

bigyabai wrote: post #248
Alupis wrote: post #246

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That's totally why 68.75% of Japanese smartphone users own an iPhone[1]... [1] https://magmatranslation.com/stats/en/mobile-usage-trends-in...

I stand by what I said. Apple used to be the leading smartphone manufacturer in China, now they aren't even in the top 5. Sometimes things change, and I doubt China's in shambles because Airdrop isn't ubiquitous. I see no reason why Japan would be different. The notion that American tech companies are invincible is really only a view held by Americans. The overwhelming majority of people I speak to internationally do…

Maybe not brand loyalty... but people, universally, want the best product available. Today, for a large portion of the world, that is perceived to be the iPhone.

The iPhone being banned in Japan because of some policy dispute with the government is going to go over like a bag of wet cement. People may not care that it's "Apple", but they do care the "Best" is being banned for reasons the population doesn't care about.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by mvdtnz »

Alupis wrote: post #246
bigyabai wrote: post #228

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I think you're extrapolating America's materialism to other cultures that don't necessarily care so much. There's not really any feature of the iPhone that can't be replaced by another product. It's only Americans that feel the need to slake brand loyalty with army-of-one boycotts.

That's totally why 68.75% of Japanese smartphone users own an iPhone[1]... [1] https://magmatranslation.com/stats/en/mobile-usage-trends-in...

Which has absolutely zero bearing on what he said.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by skinnymuch »

kelthuzad wrote: post #158
radiofreeeuropa wrote: post #131

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Counterpoint: Safari is by far the best mainstream browser, because it's got the only engine that gives half a shit about battery life, and because they push back on shitty features Google wants to make "standard" so they can trash my UX and the computing ecosystem even more.

Counterpoint: Your whole narrative is just Apple PR talk in disguise. If Safari were even remotely close to being "the best mainstream browser" as you claimed, it would manifest itself in Safari capturing a dominant market share i.e. people would naturally gravitate towards Safari without Apple forcing it upon users. Apple would also invest much more into Web technology, but they don't have any interest in doing that…

Humans aren’t perfectly logical. The free market and the best options rising to the top is made up liberal hegemony propaganda.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by frevib »

two-sandwich wrote: post #219
duffyjp wrote: post #201

Everybody is talking about Chrome, but I tell ya what I have that disabled on my Android in favor of Firefox. Firefox on mobile with full-fat uBlock Origin is the closest thing to parity with desktop web access you can get. I don't just block ads, I block elements on sites I don't care about with :has-text RegEx rules. You can't do that on Chrome even on desktop anymore. I'm this close to swapping to the Android as m…

FF with uBO was the killer app that kept me on android. If Apple let me run that, I'd have bought into it years ago. Have you considered messages.google.com? I think you need to use Google's messages app (not the Samsung messager or equivalent) but it does as you describe and supports RCS.

uBlock Origin for iOS was released yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44795825

If you are on another locale, search “ublock origin lite” with double quotes.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by natch »

Shank wrote: post #84

I think this is a net good in the long term. Even if you completely exclude obvious benefits, like being able to support more APIs than Safari, it forces Apple to actually compete with other browsers and implement things if they start getting real market share. Not that you really should, but Safari has a limit of 500 tabs. Why? It's arbitrary. Safari doesn't support WebRequest in blocking mode, so you can't have rea…

Yes it's arbitrary. But it's not a limit of 500 tabs, it's 500 per tab group.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by [deleted] »

kelthuzad wrote: post #232
radiofreeeuropa wrote: post #226

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You've got some serious biases sending you some weird places in evaluating my posts. > 1) Here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44813704 you regurgitate the classic Apple propaganda of "web apps are akshually not 'real' apps" - what makes apps 'real' for Apple propagandists is clearly when everybody is forced to pay Apple 30% tax. Yeah, that's my opinion on every platform, including back when I used Android. It's…

>You've got some serious biases sending you some weird places in evaluating my posts. You are talking about a "serious bias" after spamming the same debunked Apple propaganda, with a 5 days old account? lol. >> 1) Here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44813704 you regurgitate the classic Apple propaganda of "web apps are akshually not 'real' apps" - what makes apps 'real' for Apple propagandists is clearly when e…

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Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by jgalt212 »

> This results in no effective browser competition on iOS, and web apps being deprived of the APIs and performance they need to compete with native apps.

To my eyes, the regulators hit the nail on the head here. It's not about other browsers, it's about keeping the iPhone browser crummy so the app store and the 30% Apple Tax stays humming along.

Re: Japan: Apple Must Lift Browser Engine Ban by December

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Post by ezfe »

Shank wrote: post #173
KerrAvon wrote: post #153

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On recent US SKU iPhones — don’t know how recent —- you can add a Suica card directly to Apple Wallet annd use it anywhere the physical card is accepted. No weird regional deals.

It is only accepted in Japan.

Which isn't Apple's problem to solve...? I'm not sure what your point is.

If a Suica reader existed in the US it would work.

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