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Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by john_the_writer »

rafterydj wrote: post #312
guywithahat wrote: post #298

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I cannot think of anything worse than an official post office email I have to maintain. Do you not remember how many government sites would simply shut down after business hours because they couldn't figure out how to do on-call? Have you ever used US-treasury direct? This site would be slow, the code base would be unmaintained, it'd get enormous amounts of spam you have to sort through to get some important tax docu…

Hard disagree on every point. Just because implementations aren't always perfect does not mean you should not have public services. I know a librarian who spends an inordinate amount of time helping the elderly and tech illiterate members of the public with creating emails, because they're necessary. However, you can't create emails anywhere without a phone number these days - a post office option would fix that. Ema…

But what happens when the Gov decides they don't want to fund it anymore? Or the gov decides something shouldn't be funded.. Say truckers on strike, or wiki-leaks? Well then boom we have the same game, just a different player.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

bigyabai wrote: post #605
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #590

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https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/1944493236170403960 https://x.com/pr0ud_americans/status/1917906982624731624

Are you willing to link to a reputable news outlet instead? Or is that "anti-conservative censorship" too?

Which is a "reputable news outlet" to you? CNN? CNBC? NY times? LA times? Washington times?

Which of those totally reputable 100% unbiased news source owned by Ted Turner, Mathias Döpfner, Jeff Bezos or Rupert Murdoch do you want to listen to?

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by tr_user »

john_the_writer wrote: post #611
rafterydj wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard disagree on every point. Just because implementations aren't always perfect does not mean you should not have public services. I know a librarian who spends an inordinate amount of time helping the elderly and tech illiterate members of the public with creating emails, because they're necessary. However, you can't create emails anywhere without a phone number these days - a post office option would fix that. Ema…

But what happens when the Gov decides they don't want to fund it anymore? Or the gov decides something shouldn't be funded.. Say truckers on strike, or wiki-leaks? Well then boom we have the same game, just a different player.

that's already happening? are you going to be funding your own vaccine research?

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Post by ascagnel_ »

ddtaylor wrote: post #166
ascagnel_ wrote: post #133

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On the other hand, I'm absolutely amazed some US states hasn't yet gone after Valve for running an unlicensed casino with no age verification.

I think loot boxes as a whole need to be regulated as they are clearly gambling. I'm not a fan of regulation as a solution to most problems, but when it involves children I think it sets a good framework for safety and if someone wants to start gambling later they are free to do so.

Valve goes one step beyond loot boxes with their marketplace: you get a loot box, pay to open it (basically a slot machine spin), and you get an item in a "game of chance" -- but that item is a "thing of value" that can be sold on Valve's official, first-party marketplace.

Every definition of gambling I've seen includes some variation of "winning a thing of value from a game of chance", and while loot boxes for in-game rewards skirt that (the thing you're getting is typically described in the fine-print as having no monetary value), Valve's user-driven marketplace is setting a real-world value.

Put another way: EA FC's card packs or Genshin Impact's gacha spins are worth nothing outside of those games, but I've sold Counter-Strike skins to pay for a decent chunk of my Steam Deck.

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Post by immibis »

WolfRazu wrote: post #80
IshKebab wrote: post #62

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How would that help? Then MasterCard would drop them directly.

Well in this case MasterCard is claiming it wasn't them, but their intermediary.

Because in this case it wasn't them, but their intermediary. However, in another case, where there was no intermediary, it would be them, not their intermediary.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/nYJaDnGNQGiaCBSB5/accountabi...

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Post by bigyabai »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #612
bigyabai wrote: post #605

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Are you willing to link to a reputable news outlet instead? Or is that "anti-conservative censorship" too?

Which is a "reputable news outlet" to you? CNN? CNBC? NY times? LA times? Washington times? Which of those totally reputable 100% unbiased news source owned by Ted Turner, Mathias Döpfner, Jeff Bezos or Rupert Murdoch do you want to listen to?

Associated Press or Reuters, bud. The civilized world typically doesn't refer to any other outlet when asking for reputable reporting.

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Post by skeaker »

hexmiles wrote: post #589
skeaker wrote: post #459

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Definitely not all games, and for games that do have it cracking it is in most cases as simple as swapping out a Steam .dll (so very easy). It's primarily there as appeasement for devs who would be reluctant to engage with a platform with no copy protection, or in otherwords is mostly theater.

Do you know of any games downloaded from Steam that work even once Steam is removed? I tried to search a bit, but I couldn't find any. I would like to test it for myself to confirm it.

I haven't tried with too many games since the usecase only comes up rarely, but I know that Downwell and UFO 50 work this way off the top of my head. They come with a Steam dll that will try to launch Steam for the sake of getting achievements and such, but if you delete them or just don't have Steam they launch all the same.

Google turns up this Steam curator that lists games that run without Steam and are DRM-free out of the box, though it seems far from comprehensive: https://store.steampowered.com/curator/38523697-DRM-FREE-GAM...

The PC Gaming Wiki has a couple of better lists it looks like: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_g... and https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_...

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Post by Guvante »

rob74 wrote: post #573
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #569

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You have them reversed. Are the far right the ones wanting to censor Musk, Trump and everyone else they don't like?

No, the far right are the ones dismantling federal agencies like the EPA, the FDA, USAID etc., sending the army to police states they don't like, firing the person responsible for jobs statistics because they don't like the numbers, slapping 50% tarrifs on countries because they dared to prosecute one of Trump's buddies etc. (just some of the latest examples). The "far left" (as the far right likes to call anyone who…

I am simply rephrasing the person I responded to and noting the difference in the meaning of the word "censorship".

Aka in once case it is censorship in another it is just people complaining which isn't censorship.

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Post by Guvante »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #569
Guvante wrote: post #551

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Far right is calling for the government to block access to certain things they don't like aka censorship. Far left is critiquing those who don't virtue signal enough. That isn't censorship at all.

You have them reversed. Are the far right the ones wanting to censor Musk, Trump and everyone else they don't like?

Again censorship means something and "I don't like these people we shouldn't listen to them" is not censorship.

Musk has only had negative feelings except possibly some fringe thoughts (I have never heard a call for government censorship of Musk).

Trump was only asked to be censored when he was assisting a coup. Again not liking and not wanting people to listen is not censorship.

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Post by Guvante »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #590
rob74 wrote: post #573

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the far right are the ones dismantling federal agencies like the EPA, the FDA, USAID etc., sending the army to police states they don't like, firing the person responsible for jobs statistics because they don't like the numbers, slapping 50% tarrifs on countries because they dared to prosecute one of Trump's buddies etc. (just some of the latest examples). The "far left" (as the far right likes to call anyone who…

https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/1944493236170403960 https://x.com/pr0ud_americans/status/1917906982624731624

Ah yes the governor should not work with Trump to get national problems fixed he should personally look at a single incident.
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