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If the bill is outside what the Constitution allows, then yes, that is exactly what is supposed to happen. And it has happened, several times. If you want the bill, first amend the Constitution .

Agreed but this is not at all what was being discussed.

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Well, the first step is cutting out the cancer, healing can not begin until then.

By "cancer" do you mean ~50% of the US population? That sounds pretty extreme. What does "cutting out" the cancer mean here?

I am talking about removing fascism. Remove its supporters from office, jail the ones who broke the law, and reverse any fascist laws or policies that have been put in place.

Also, Trump does not have the support of 50% of the population. At best he has 20% of the popularion which are very vocal plus the support of many of the richest americans.

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this constant skepticism, where does it come from? Does Donald Trump have to come knock on your door personally and say "Hey I'm a fascist dictator!" for you to believe your eyes what the presidency is so obviously doing day in and day out? Did you not notice when they illegally swept up 200 men who had tattoos, claimed they were gang members, and sent them off to a foreign prison in direct violation of court orders?…

What you see as skepticism, others see as Hanlon's Razor[0]. The prevailing wind of incompetence has masked a lot of what you might rightly consider malice, but in holding to a certain decorum or "wishing the best of people" there is a lot that could just be bungling. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, a lot of dots connect and do look like malice, but there's a vast amount of data that supports incompetence. [0]…

The motivation does not matter. It is the effect that matters, and also, it is well documented [1] that fascist dictatorships rely (again not in any pre-planned way, simply in how they emerge) on incompetence, sloppiness to achieve their end result - both to allow for wanton destruction, as well as to actually continue making people think none of this is intentional, as we are seeing here. That is, the skepticism we see here is the fascist playbook working as designed.

Trump has no idea what a "fascist" is. He suffers from narcissism, and when you put narcissists in charge, you get fascist dictatorships as a result. That's why it's very easy to see that it's happening without having to psychoanalyze anyone. But because it happens in such a stupid way, people are constantly thrown off the trail as we see in this thread.

You cannot credibly claim a US gov website just accidentally loses a specific chunk of the Constitution that specifically refers to all the parts of it that Trump is currently trying to break. It might be an accident that some overzealous kid was put in charge of the website, and it might be an accident that the removal happened in the first place, but the actual removal is clearly intentional on someone's part. If it stays up and does not get restored, that's also "incompetence, laziness" but it's also the effect of increased fascism.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/hitler-incompetent-lazy-nazi-govern...

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this constant skepticism, where does it come from? Does Donald Trump have to come knock on your door personally and say "Hey I'm a fascist dictator!" for you to believe your eyes what the presidency is so obviously doing day in and day out? Did you not notice when they illegally swept up 200 men who had tattoos, claimed they were gang members, and sent them off to a foreign prison in direct violation of court orders?…

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this is such utterly gross disinformation and should be reported

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The Reddit thread is reasonably inflamed, but the theory about changing reality downstream by changing the sources that chatbots ingest is a chilling one.

Chilling, but not very realistic. It's not like chatbots forget all the previously trained-in data when you change the source. In fact, it'd be a pretty hard problem to solve to get there (but actually desirable! - i.e. the ability to remove individual trained-in things.)

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I would have to imagine this is an accident or rogue vandalism -- I don't think USGOV is trying to stealth-edit the constitution by truncating the last 18 paragraphs of Article I.

Of course. But it gave a lot of people their outrage of the day, so that's good.

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Why not? Congress is meant to be a check on the other branches of government (though the filibuster rule / partisan omnibus bill system has degraded its collective will, which is why they won't do anything), so pre-emptively removing the powers of congress from the list sounds like a power grab. It's not like it's something completely irrelevant. Same for the limitations of government listed there. Besides, the thing…

Because this is a government website and not the actual constitution. It's absurd. This is just not how any of this works.

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post #87

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Considering that only the last part of one article is missing it really looks like a bug.

Agree. And most of us would immediately assume that if it were any other administration.

Then you should wonder how objective you can be, and why not.
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