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Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Development experience of AI tools is becoming the biggest blocker. And a large part of that is performance (in time, not qualitatively). Most of us are doing relatively simple things like using with the largest/slowest models possible instead of downgrading to a smaller model. Reason: our tools lack the ability to escalate to more expensive models as needed and switching models manually is tedious. Ideally, a cheap…

I'm really really enjoying the Codex UX so far, though. Having it in the cloud makes it so much safer, as it can't access my local data, and the slowness isn't so bad if you make a few changes to how you work on a project. It's not an app for vibecoding, it's essentially an intern

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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I totally relate to this. Sometimes I think I can do my ideas quicker but when I try to do that it ends up taking more time. So I learned waiting for AI to respond is a better use of my time.

I keep a notepad open with my ideas and thoughts as AI working and reading the code. Writing down my thoughts and use that for my next prompt.

Unrelated but I also noticed that using a lot of AI for coding often leads to over-engineered solutions. Instead of fixing the backend to return a proper audio format it suggests bringing FFMPEG to the browser and transcode for instance. It's important to be aware of this and keep asking AI if there are better ways to do things

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Very, very much agree with this. The nuggets of wait time are just long enough to get distracted, but not long enough to accomplish anything worthwhile. My best "hack" for this has been to use Freedom[1] to create a blocklist of all my go-to time sucks (including, sadly, HN). This at least stops me from getting pulled in too deeply. [1] http://freedom.to/

This is why I don’t use any of the reasoning models, they take too long and then I get tempted to do other things. Slightly “dumber” (but faster) models actually result in higher productivity for me.

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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I'm working on test scenarios (in natural language) after defining my initial task to keep my mind on the same topic. Edge cases to test, implementation details to check, log traces where it makes sense,... Basically crystalizing my vision of what the code should do and look like, so I can check against the implemented version.

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Instead of developing, I'm code reviewing. Hard to get into a flow state when claude is the one flowing, not me.

First painting, then writing poems and making music and now coding.

AI is taking all the fun jobs, and we're left with the boring work!

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Interestingly I feel quite the opposite but it depends on the job. Bootstrapping things like a new project ? Yeah, things can be too fast for me to stay in the flow. But my day to day is about working with already existing code which I have to modify and here, AI is exactly the opposite : it helps me drill down boring and legacy code. I helps me stay in the flow because I can ask questions about the code. I can ask i…

> Bootstrapping things like a new project ? Yeah, things can be too fast for me to stay in the flow. I think OP is saying it's too slow to stay in the flow. That's what I feel personally. The AI thinks a long time and I do something else.

Actually it’s both : you wait a long time and then you are thrown hundreds of LOC to review.

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Honestly, I get sooo bored just watching it do all the things. There's simply no "flow state" when you're not the one doing the work, not the one reasoning. I have loved almost every minute of my 20+ years as a developer, and the biggest thing agentic coding has achieved is suck the fun out of it. I am bored for the first time in my career.

For me, it's not just boredom, it's missing the little thrills.

When I have a project that has tons of forms that require complex validation, it's the little thrill of thinking of a way to do it that saves time and is reusable.

Maybe I'll create a js proxy object and a generic "change" event handler. In the "change" I'll assign a value to the proxy that's the name of the form component. Maybe this proxy object is smart enough to issue batches of JSONPatch mutations to the server, that handles validation biz logic etc... so I end up with this neat, elegant little solution to a tedious problem. I get a thrill of satisfaction when it all works great, and the joy of problem solving to create and debug it.

Exactly zero out of a million runs would an AI come up with something like that. It's a stochastic parrot.

But it'll happily chug along and generate 10,000 lines of repetitive forms code that mostly work, and done in the most tedious way imaginable.

But I guess it's more "productive" than me.

Each time I run in to a tedious or boring problem, I take joy in pushing the boundaries of my understanding to come up with a better way of solving it.

AI coding kills that completely.

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Yeah, when using AI assistants it often happens that I end up in a dull/low-energy/lethargic state. Then it costs me a lot of energy to get back working on the problem and fix all the mistakes that the AI made.

It also frustrates me much more. A hard bug used to be frustrating, but also a bit challenging. Not anymore, really.

My brain's reward system is shutting down.

Re: Ask HN: Do you struggle with flow state when using AI assisted coding tools?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also frustrates me much more. A hard bug used to be frustrating, but also a bit challenging. Not anymore, really.

My brain's reward system is shutting down.

This hits home quite clearly.

I'm just starting to think that coding won't ever be a fun thing anymore. Just another boring, mind-numbing thing I do for money.

I'll get a hobby I guess.

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