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Century-old stone “tsunami stones” dot Japan's coastline (2015)

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Re: Century-old stone “tsunami stones” dot Japan's coastline (2015)

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And I can't find the on Youtube the music for the glowing cats proposal, but if somebody can, it's highly recommended.

Is it this one? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=amn3kn0XPLQ

Yeah, this one. Thanks.

Re: Century-old stone “tsunami stones” dot Japan's coastline (2015)

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This is why so many people are against nuclear. It may be theoretically possible to create safe nuclear plants, but capitalism is badly equipped to create them.

Maybe you mean democratic societies are badly equipped to regulate capitalist economies? There are zero successful capitalist economies that lack powerful governmental regulatory control. Fukushima 1F was a failure of governmental regulation. It's really important to understand that, because otherwise you inescapably frame the argument wrongly. Capitalism isn't the problem, regulatory weakness is the problem. No capi…

It's also initially/primarily a failure of amoral capitalism.

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Not obvious to me

They famously got inundated with tsunami water. It's pretty reasonable to assume they were below the line of tsunami high water marks.

How is that reasonable to assume? You can have a tsunami that is higher than the previous tsunamis, hence, exceeding previous water marks.

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This is why so many people are against nuclear. It may be theoretically possible to create safe nuclear plants, but capitalism is badly equipped to create them.

Maybe you mean democratic societies are badly equipped to regulate capitalist economies? There are zero successful capitalist economies that lack powerful governmental regulatory control. Fukushima 1F was a failure of governmental regulation. It's really important to understand that, because otherwise you inescapably frame the argument wrongly. Capitalism isn't the problem, regulatory weakness is the problem. No capi…

Partlially agree, but one needs to try really, really hard to intentionally overlook the whole "influence of corporate giants on government" issue before the government regulation argument carries any practical weight.

So if anything this weakens the Fukushima argument: in a country with excellent regulatory tradition and little evidence of regulatory capture, this is less likely to be about bad or lacking government regulations.

Re: Century-old stone “tsunami stones” dot Japan's coastline (2015)

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They famously got inundated with tsunami water. It's pretty reasonable to assume they were below the line of tsunami high water marks.

How is that reasonable to assume? You can have a tsunami that is higher than the previous tsunamis, hence, exceeding previous water marks.

What's more likely, worst tsunami ever, beyond previous safety stones? Or company shortcuts safety and falls over because they failed to account for predictable circumstances?

Given the latter happens constantly, and the former is once in generations upon generations, I think it's safe to assume the problem is human and the tsunami was within historical ranges.

Especially since other reactors were hit by the same tsunami and were fine.

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