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Re: Open models by OpenAI

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Running a model comparable to o3 on a 24GB Mac Mini is absolutely wild. Seems like yesterday the idea of running frontier (at the time) models locally or on a mobile device was 5+ years out. At this rate, we'll be running such models in the next phone cycle.

What's the easiest way to get these local models browsing the web right now?

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#132
post #41

Looks like Groq (at 1k+ tokens/second) and Fireworks are already live on openrouter: https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-oss-120b $0.15M in / $0.6-0.75M out edit: Now Cerebras too at 3,815 tps for $0.25M / $0.69M out.

It is interesting that openai isn't offering any inference for these models.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#133

The coding seems to be one of the strongest use cases for LLMs. Though currently they are eating too many tokens to be profitable. So perhaps these local models could offload some tasks to local computers. E.g. Hybrid architecture. Local model gathers more data, runs tests, does simple fixes, but frequently asks the stronger model to do the real job. Local model gathers data using tools and sends more data to the str…

I have always thought that if we can somehow get an AI which is insanely good at coding, so much so that It can improve itself, then through continuous improvements, they will get better models of everything else idk Maybe you guys call it AGI, so anytime I see progress in coding, I think it goes just a tiny bit towards the right direction Plus it also helps me as a coder to actually do some stuff just for the fun. M…

Not to open that can of worms, but in most definitions self-improvement is not an AGI requirement. That's already ASI territory (Super Intelligence). That's the proverbial skynet (pessimists) or singularity (optimists).

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#134
post #131
post #23

Running a model comparable to o3 on a 24GB Mac Mini is absolutely wild. Seems like yesterday the idea of running frontier (at the time) models locally or on a mobile device was 5+ years out. At this rate, we'll be running such models in the next phone cycle.

What's the easiest way to get these local models browsing the web right now?

aider uses Playwright. I don't know what everybody is using but that's a good starting point.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#135
post #95
post #23

Running a model comparable to o3 on a 24GB Mac Mini is absolutely wild. Seems like yesterday the idea of running frontier (at the time) models locally or on a mobile device was 5+ years out. At this rate, we'll be running such models in the next phone cycle.

When people talk about running a (quantized) medium-sized model on a Mac Mini, what types of latency and throughput times are they talking about? Do they mean like 5 tokens per second or at an actually usable speed?

here's a quick recording from the 20b model on my 128GB M4 Max MBP: https://asciinema.org/a/AiLDq7qPvgdAR1JuQhvZScMNr

and the 120b: https://asciinema.org/a/B0q8tBl7IcgUorZsphQbbZsMM

I am, um, floored

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#136
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I legitimately cannot think of any hardware that will get you to that throughput over that many streams with any of the hardware I know of (I don't work in the server space so there may be some new stuff I am unaware of).

oh, I totally understand that I'd need multiple GPUs. I'd just want to know what GPU specifically and how many

I don't think you can get 1k tokens/sec on a single stream using any consumer grade GPUs with a 20b model. Maybe you could with H100 or better, but I somewhat doubt that.

My 2x 3090 setup will get me ~6-10 streams of ~20-40 tokens/sec (generation) ~700-1000 tokens/sec (input) with a 32b dense model.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#137

Please don't use the open-source term unless you ship the TBs of data downloaded from Anna's Archive that are required do build it yourself. And dont forget all the system prompts to censor the multiple topics that they don't want you to see.

It's apache2.0, so by definition it's open source. Stop pushing for training data, it'll never happen, and there's literally 0 reason for it to happen (both theoretical and practical). Apache2.0 IS opensource.

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#139

I'm disappointed that the smallest model size is 21B parameters, which strongly restricts how it can be run on personal hardware. Most competitors have released a 3B/7B model for that purpose. For self-hosting, it's smart that they targeted a 16GB VRAM config for it since that's the size of the most cost-effective server GPUs, but I suspect "native MXFP4 quantization" has quality caveats.

A small part of me is considering going from a 4070 to a 16GB 5060 Ti just to avoid having to futz with offloading

I'd go for an ..80 card but I can't find any that fit in a mini-ITX case :(

Re: Open models by OpenAI

#140

So this confirms a best-in-class model release within the next few days? From a strategic perspective, I can't think of any reason they'd release this unless they were about to announce something which totally eclipses it?

Thursday

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