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Re: Eleven Music

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Post by ronsor »

two-sandwich wrote: post #9

If you consider that Entertainment gives the viewer what they want, and art intends to challenge, none of what's created here is "art". It doesn't push boundaries, create new genres, or satisfy an uncomfortable curiosity. The tech here is fantastic. I love that such things are possible now and they're an exciting frontier in creation. It's very dystopian to feel that the robots are making generic human-music with ind…

The fact that these models have so many people irritated like there's sand in their pants is enough proof that they're pushing boundaries and making some uncomfortable.

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by asadm »

Do we yet have a way to "autocomplete" music from existing music? or from humming to music (music-to-music?)?

I am less interested in the "one-shot" approach here with text-to-prompt. I see seamless transitions but that seems like an afterthought.

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by fidotron »

What struck me more than the output is the absolute marketing talk of the prompting, so not only is the output kind of creepy but in order to get the best results you have to translate your intention into the worst corpo-speak imaginable.

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by nemo1618 »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #2

OT: Has anyone tried the opposite - ask AI to listen to music and determine the notes or chords being played? Or watch someone playing an instrument and give a textual output of what notes/chords they are playing.

I'm very interested in this too. We're beginning to see models that can deeply understand a single image, or an audio recording of human speech, but I haven't seen any models that can deeply understand music. I would love to see an AI system that can iteratively explore musical ideas the same way Claude Code can iterate on code.

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by shadowgovt »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #3

Having a machine-learning algorithm crank out generic music seems like peak dystopia to me

Is it more or less dystopia than an army of musicians trying to eke a living out of creating stuff like this (https://www.chosic.com/free-music/presentation/) to go behind your company's PowerPoint about how its Q3 woodchip sales didn't quite exceed expectations?

Maybe the fundamental issue is that this shouldn't compete with a human picking up a guitar and having fun with it, and the only reason it does is because we keep tying questions like "survival" to whether someone can make woodchip earnings reports less boring to read instead of trying some other way to be a community?

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

thepryz wrote: post #11
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #2

OT: Has anyone tried the opposite - ask AI to listen to music and determine the notes or chords being played? Or watch someone playing an instrument and give a textual output of what notes/chords they are playing.

There’s a ton. Haven’t used any personally. AnthemScore, ScoreCloud, Melody Scanner are just a few I found after a quick search.

I think these are all using old machine learning techniques and not the modern transformer based architectures that underlie LLMs. These tools won't be able to match the abilities of an expert musician replicating a song by listening to a live recording of it. Check this video channel where they ask professional drummers to replicate a song after only one listen [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=drummer+replica...

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by lioeters »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #2

OT: Has anyone tried the opposite - ask AI to listen to music and determine the notes or chords being played? Or watch someone playing an instrument and give a textual output of what notes/chords they are playing.

Reminds me of an example in a similar direction, where AI was used for audio processing to filter out everything except a person's voice. If I remember right, it was able to focus on different people in a crowded room. It might have been also for music, to pick out an instrument and listen to it, filtering out the rest of the band.

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by shadowgovt »

thepryz wrote: post #6
crazydoggers wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you just described pop music

It’s easy and popular to hate on pop music, but even pop music has value and requires a certain skill to understand what resonates with people. This is taking a monkeys on a typewriter approach to all music. Click a button, see what the monkeys made and then click another button to publish to Spotify while you figure out a way to either market the music or just game search and digital assistants by creating an artist…

The current solution for creating the kind of music this tool can back-fill is to go on a site like "Free music for presentations" and click line after line after line after line of 10-second samples hoping to find one that "vibes" with you.

If anything, this is a lateral move.

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