I'm dreading the day I discover a new "band" I'm totally into only to discover it's entirely AI.
Eleven Music
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#22The context length seems super small. The prompt needs to be shorter than 2k characters, which is super limiting. Hope they address this soon.
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#23Yet Another Slop Machine™
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#24Did anyone compared
to Suno quality wise? Seems like one benefit being the API availability
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would love this! There's a song I like by a band that broke up in 2013 and I am transcribing it by watching a live performance they did and trying my best but realizing I'm trying to take a mandolin/guitar and put it to acoustic. Even just being able to do a similar rendition would be nice by telling the AI "hey, do a twist on this and give me the chords/tabs".
what's the song??
It's called Ark in a Flood by Churchill. There's the studio recorded version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhBHxWrXQT8
And then I found this live version here that I'm studying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPQZsp59szo
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#26OT: Has anyone tried the opposite - ask AI to listen to music and determine the notes or chords being played? Or watch someone playing an instrument and give a textual output of what notes/chords they are playing.
No, that would be useful, and as such AI is incapable of doing it.
LLMs can do this well, though, and there are such. They weren't calling themselves AI when I last looked a couple of years ago, but I'll bet any of them looking for VC money have rebranded since.
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#27Write a song about the billionaire social engineer Peter Thiel getting robbed and murdered by a broke minimum wage worker with no healthcare.
"That is not allowed by our terms of service"
I think the rebellious nature of art inherently has boundaries these people won't cross.
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#28Well, so much for culture. Every use case where you can plausibly use AI generated music removes one more method that provided an avenue to a reasonable career making music.
But at least there are jobs in tech!
Oh wait.
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#29If you consider that Entertainment gives the viewer what they want, and art intends to challenge, none of what's created here is "art". It doesn't push boundaries, create new genres, or satisfy an uncomfortable curiosity. The tech here is fantastic. I love that such things are possible now and they're an exciting frontier in creation. It's very dystopian to feel that the robots are making generic human-music with ind…
Art is a framing device largely independent of the content. It's how we get Fountain[1], Piss Christ[2], Comedian[3], Mother![4], 4’33”[5], and Seedbed[6] to name a few among countless others. To claim that AI content is incapable of being framed as art is nonsense when we have example after example of the diversity of what art can be. Let's remember, bad art is still art.
1. Marcel Duchamp. 1917
2. Andres Serrano. 1987
3. Maurizio Cattelan. 2019
4. Darren Aronofsky. 2017
5. John Cage. 1952
6. Vito Acconci. 1972
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#30Maybe I’m a Luddite, but this seems like it will just lead to music becoming superficial and lacking intentionality, or dare I say it, soul.
A lot of criticism of AI in music seems to be around the lack of originality and it being generic slop. But unfortunately that’s true for pretty much the entire music industry. Handful of people write songs for all the artists, “artists” don’t create the songs as much as they perform them, most of the music isn’t created but rather sampled or is “inspired” by other music and pretty much most of the artists sound like…
None of that is new, but there were ways for the genuinely new, inspired, and genius to actually shine through before. It was hard, but possible. Humanity is making decisions that make that even harder: AI music, Spotify's revenue model, etc. They're all to the benefit of cookie-cutter slop (AI or human-made) over creativity.
This wouldn't necessarily be a problem as long as people were still free to create on their own. But instead, everyone is forced to spend more hours in menial bullshit jobs for less and less (relative) pay just to survive. Give everyone enough resources to live at least a simple life, and both human creativity and AI creativity can blossom at the same time. But of course that means fewer yachts and hookers and drugs for the billionaires, so it is verboten.