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Things that helped me get out of the AI 10x engineer imposter syndrome

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>I'd expect it to work like a very junior programmer, but it works like a very drunk senior programmer that isn't listening to you very well at all. This seems to be the current consensus. A very similar quote from another recent AI article: One host compares AI chatbots to “a very smart assistant who has a dozen Ph.D.s but is also high on ketamine like 30 percent of the time.” https://lithub.com/what-happened-when-i…

Even saying it has a dozen PhDs belies the reality that these things have no relationship with the truth

I find statements like this kind of funny.

If an AI assistant was the equivalent of “a dozen PhDs” at any of the places I’ve worked you would see an 80-95% productivity reduction by using it.

Re: Things that helped me get out of the AI 10x engineer imposter syndrome

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I think this is a strawman argument that is conflating uses for AI. I posted a video not long ago where Andrew Ng makes the claim to the AI Startup school that in testing they are seeing ~10x improvement for greenfield prototypes and 30%-50% improvement in existing production code bases.

So two groups are talking past one another. Someone has a completely new idea, starts with nothing and vibe codes a barely working MVP. They claim they were able to go from 0 to MVP ~10x faster than if they had written the code themselves.

Then some seasoned programmer hears that claim, scoffs and takes the agent into a legacy code base. They run `/init` and make 0 changes to the auto-generated CLAUDE.md. They add no additional context files or rules about the project. They ask completely unstructured questions and prompt the first thing that comes into their minds. After 1 or 2 days of getting terrible results they don't change their usage or try to find a better way, they instead write a long blog post claiming AI hype is unfounded.

What they ignore is that even the maximalists are stating: 30%-50% improvement on legacy code bases. And that is if you use the tool well.

This author gets terrible results and then says: "Dark warnings that if I didn't start using AI now I'd be hopelessly behind proved unfounded. Using AI to code is not hard to learn." How sure is the author that they actually learned to use it? "A competent engineer will figure this stuff out in less than a week of moderate AI usage." One of the most interesting things about learning are those things that are easy to learn and hard to master. You can teach a child chess, it is easy to learn but it is hard to master.

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The other day I asked chatgpt (o3) to help me compare a bunch of task orchestration systems and arrange them according to some variables I care about (popularity, feature richness, durability, whether can be self-hosted, etc.). I ended up using https://www.inngest.com/ -- which was new to me -- and that single tool sped up my particular task by at least 10x for the week. That was a one-off project, so it won't generalize in a clean way, but I keep finding individual cases where the particular strengths of LLMs can save me a whole bunch of time. (another example: creating and evaluating responses to technical interview questions). I don't expect that these are easy to quantify, but they are significant.

This is not to disagree with the OP, but to point out that, even for engineers, the speedups might not appear where you expect. [EDIT I see like 4 other comments making the same point :)]

Re: Things that helped me get out of the AI 10x engineer imposter syndrome

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The central theme is very hard to disgree with; claims of productivity increase being self-reported are oftem misleading. The way forward is math and meaningful measurement, this bears repeating.

I find that getting from zero to 80-90% functionality on just about anything software these days is exceedingly easy. So, I wonder if AI just rides that wave. Software development is maturing now such that making software with or without AI feels 10-100x faster. I suspect it is partially due to the profound leap that has been made with collaborative tools, compilers, languages, and open source methodology, etc..

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I use tab auto complete, and i think it's a 5% productivity gain. On a good day, maybe 10%. I haven't put much effort into optimizing the setup or learning advanced usage patterns or anything. I'm using stock copilot, provided by my employer. If I had to pay for it, I wouldn't be using it, as it doesn't justify the cost.

Really, what are you making that a 5% increase in productivity doesn’t justify a Copilot subscription?

That's not a rigorously measured number.

The 5% is an increase in straight-ahead code speed. I spend a small fraction of my time typing code. Smaller than I'd like.

And it very well might be an economically rational subscription. For me personally, I'm subscription averse based on the overhead of remembering that I have a subscription and managing it.

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Yeah. I just need to babysit it too much. Take copilot, it gives good suggestions and blows me away sometimes with a block of code which is exactly what I'd type. But actively letting it code (at least with gpt4.1 or gpt4o) just doesn't work well enough for me. Half of the time it doesn't even compile, and after fixing that it's just not really correctly working either. I'd expect it to work like a very junior progra…

It codes like a junior, has the design sense of a mid, while being a savant at algorithms.

What does it really mean to know something or understand something. I think AI knows a great deal (associating facts with symbols), confabulates at times when it doesn't know (which is dishonestly called hallucination, implying a conscious agent misperceiving, which AI is not), and understands almost nothing.

The best way to think of chat bot "AI" is as the compendium of human intelligence as recorded in books and online media available to it. It is not intelligent at all on its own and its judgement can't be better than its human sources because it has no biological drive to sythesize and excel. Its best to think of AI as a librarian of human knowledge or an interactive Wikipedia which is designed to seem like an intelligent agent but is actually not.

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I don't consider myself a 2x engineer; my company tells me that by not paying me 2x vs my colleagues, even if I know (and others believe that too) I deliver more than 2x their output. Using AI will change nothing in this context.

The first red flag there is "2x their output". You can find many an anecdote where a good engineer produced better solution in fewer lines of code (or sometimes, by removing code — the holy grail). So always aim for outcomes , not output :) At my company, we did promote people quickly enough that they are now close to double their salaries when they started a year or so ago, due to their added value as engineers in t…

No one said anything about lines of code. I would assume output here means features completed, tickets knocked out, tasks completed etc.
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