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Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by quesera »

scotty79 wrote: post #68
MarkusQ wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some physicist once said "I endeavor to never write more clearly than I think"; in the same way, history probably shouldn't be presented more vividly than it's understood. (We already have this problem with people remembering incidental details and emotional vibes from historical fiction as if they were established historical fact; VR diffusion delusions would make this much worse.)

History is mostly made up. You can be sure mostly about general facts. The other 80% are just narratives.

Also true of the present. :)

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Post by ducktective »

silveraxe93 wrote: post #72
ivape wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's akin to us sending a rocket to space and immediately discovering a wormhole. Sure, there's a lot of science about what's out there, but to discover all this in our first few trips to orbit ...

Lemme start by saying this is objectively amazing. But I just really wouldn't call it a breakthrough. We had one breakthrough a couple of years ago with GPT-3, where we found that neural networks / transformers + scale does wonders. Everything else has been a smooth continuous improvement. Compare today's announcement to Genie-2[1] release less than 1 year ago. The speed is insane, but not surprising if you put in co…

Wasn't the model winning gold in IMO result of a breakthrough? I doubt an stochastic parrot can solve math at IMO level...

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Post by dist-epoch »

timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

> Looks like a pretty decent explanation of Fermi paradox.

It's not. We will be replaced, but the AI will carry on.

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Post by dist-epoch »

snickerdoodle12 wrote: post #89
timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

I see two ways this is going to go: 1. Universal Basic Income as we're on the way to a post-scarcity society. Unlikely to actually happen due to greed. 2. We take inspiration from the french revolution and then return to a simpler time.

In the french revolution the army and the people had similar kind of weapons. And there was no total surveillance to round up the leaders.

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Post by skybrian »

timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

We already live in a world where a vast library of songs by musicians who play much better than you are readily available on YouTube and Spotify. This seems like more of the same?

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Post by dist-epoch »

dandellion wrote: post #71
brotchie wrote: post #9

First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

I suggest you go to google/bing/whatever floats your boat and search "it will only get better" then filter results earlier than 2010. Things that I just found that were going to "only get better": - Google search - Web browsers - Web content - Internet Explorer - Music - Flight process at Mosul airport - Star Wars

Google search is better. It's just that now you ask the LLM what you want to find out.

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Post by worldsayshi »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #85
timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

Automation only leads to more labor if we allow that employer relation to dictate so. Automation affords leisure time (for everything besides labor that life has to offer, including optional labor-like pursuits) but it’s currently unevenly distributed who gets to benefit from that

We keep coming back to the conclusion that we need to turn the economy on its head.

With business as usual capital is power and capital is increasingly getting centralized.

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Post by zanellato19 »

dist-epoch wrote: post #96
dandellion wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest you go to google/bing/whatever floats your boat and search "it will only get better" then filter results earlier than 2010. Things that I just found that were going to "only get better": - Google search - Web browsers - Web content - Internet Explorer - Music - Flight process at Mosul airport - Star Wars

Google search is better. It's just that now you ask the LLM what you want to find out.

Google search is absolutely not better.

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Post by podgietaru »

skybrian wrote: post #95
timeattack wrote: post #75

Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

We already live in a world where a vast library of songs by musicians who play much better than you are readily available on YouTube and Spotify. This seems like more of the same?

I like living in a world where I know that people who have spent actually time on nurturing a talent get rewarded for doing so, even if that talent is not something I will ever be good at.

I don't want to live in a world where these things are generated cheaply and easily for the profit of a very select few group of people.

I know the world doesn't work like I described in the top paragraph. But it's a lot closer to it than the bottom.

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