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Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.

Trillions of dollars are not being invested in making jet packs any better

Your comparison is incorrect

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#54

I am much more convinced now that the Simulation Argument is correct

I’m seeing a lot of variations on this in this thread, but we have been able to render photoreal things, and do intricate physical simulations, for a long time. This is mostly impressive because it is a real-time way to generate and render big, intricate worlds.

But if you believe reality is a simulation, why would these “efficient” world-generation methods convince you of anything? The tech our reality would have to be running on is still inconceivable science fiction.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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post #9

First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.

> Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be

Have they become better over the past 20 years?

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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post #34
post #9

First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

> First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… > …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. I guess if this bothers you (and I can see how it might) you can take some small comfort in thinking that (due to enshitification) this could in fact be the _best_ the capabilities will ever be.

Once it has been proven to be possible, other companies [1][2][3] can and will reproduce it, and will attempt to push the frontier. As far as we know, there's no bottleneck that's stalling development here.

[1]: https://www.worldlabs.ai/

[2]: https://wayfarerlabs.ai/

[3]: https://runwayml.com/research/introducing-general-world-mode...

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#57

What is the purpose of this? It seems designed to muddy the waters of reality vs. falsehood and put creatives in film/tv out of jobs. Real Jurassic Park moment here

They mention some possible applications in the video. Training environments for robotics (use sample data to simulate the surface of mars or the inside of a nuclear reactor), educational worlds for students (like the old Encarta virtual tours), and disaster preparedness simulations (e.g. training firefighters on an endless variety of burning homes).

Obviously, none of these are super viable given the low accuracy and steerability of world models out today, but positive applications for this kind of tech do exist.

Also (I'm speculating now instead of restating the video), I think pretty soon someone will hook up a real time version of this to a voice model, and we will get some kind of interactive voice + keyboard (or VR) lucid dream experience.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#58

Consistency over multiple minutes and it runs in real time at 720p? I did not expect world models to be this good yet. > Genie 3’s consistency is an emergent capability So this just happened from scaling the model, rather than being a consequence of deliberate architecture changes? Edit: here is some commentary on limitations from someone who tried it: https://x.com/tejasdkulkarni/status/1952737669894574264 > - Physi…

So this just happened from scaling the model

Unbelievable. How is this not a miracle? So we're just stumbling onto breakthroughs?

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.

Trillions of dollars are not being invested in making jet packs any better Your comparison is incorrect

You say assuming money is limitless and investor patience for returns is endless.
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