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Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by delusional »

zb3 wrote: post #29
Tadpole9181 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a strange take. Do you not care about news coming from the James Webb Telescope either, just because you can't play with the telescope personally? It's a whitepaper release to share the STOTA research. This doesn't seem like an economically viable model, nor does it look polished enough to be practically usable.

James Webb Telescope is not something that can be - and is released. AI models are, and others are announcing them when they're available, but DeepMind introduces noise here with their "trust us, that works, now go away" approach.

> James Webb Telescope is not something that can be - and is released

I would actually turn that around. The Telescope is released. It's flying around up there taking photos. If they kept it in some garage while releasing flashy PR pages about how groundbreaking it is, then I'd be pretty skeptical.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by westoncb »

simianparrot wrote: post #28
brotchie wrote: post #9

First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.

The difference is the incentive to improve, and actual present rate of improvement, for models like this is far higher than it is for jetpacks. (That and certain intrinsic features at least suggest the route to improvement is roughly "more of the same," vs "needs massive unknown breakthrough".)

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by MarkusQ »

mclau157 wrote: post #26

I can see this being incredible for history lessons and history school lectures

Some physicist once said "I endeavor to never write more clearly than I think"; in the same way, history probably shouldn't be presented more vividly than it's understood. (We already have this problem with people remembering incidental details and emotional vibes from historical fiction as if they were established historical fact; VR diffusion delusions would make this much worse.)

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by suddenlybananas »

crossbody wrote: post #36
simianparrot wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.

Not really. E.g. clay tablets, physical books will not be meaningfully better.

Yes, but they're not going to get any worse.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Post by drstewart »

curwin wrote: post #17
brotchie wrote: post #9

First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.

Same, even worse that the world was generated on the fly—nobody even hand-crafted it. That makes it even more depressing.

... so like the real world?
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