First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.
Genie 3: A new frontier for world models
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#32First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.
The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.
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#33Yet another unavailable model from Google.. if I can't use it, I don't care. Tell me about it when it's ready to use.
What a strange take. Do you not care about news coming from the James Webb Telescope either, just because you can't play with the telescope personally? It's a whitepaper release to share the STOTA research. This doesn't seem like an economically viable model, nor does it look polished enough to be practically usable.
The main product of the telescope is its data, not the ability for anyone to play with the instruments.
The main product of the model is the ability for anyone to play with it.
Strange rebutal.
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#34First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.
> …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be.
I guess if this bothers you (and I can see how it might) you can take some small comfort in thinking that (due to enshitification) this could in fact be the _best_ the capabilities will ever be.
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#35It sounds cool that Genie 3 can make whole worlds you can explore, but I wonder how soon regular people will actually get to try it out?
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#36First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.
The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.
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#37And unfortunately not possible to play around for the general public.
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#381. You can see fine textures "jump" every 4 frames - which means they're most likely using a 4x-temporal-downscaling VAE with at least 4-frame interaction latency (unless the VAE is also control-conditional). Unfortunately I didn't see any real-time footage to confirm the latency (at one point they intercut screen recordings with "fingers on keyboard" b-roll? hmm).
2. There's some 16x16 spatial blocking during fast motion which could mean 16x16 spatial downscaling in the VAE. Combined with 1, this would mean 24x1280x720/(4x16x16) = 21,600 tokens per second, or around 1.3 million tokens per minute.
3. The first frame of each clip looks a bit sharper and less videogamey than later stationary frames, which suggests this is could be a combination of text-to-image + image-to-world system (where the t2i system is trained on general data but the i2w system is finetuned on game data with labeled controls). Noticeable in e.g. the dirt/textures in [2]. I still noticed some trend towards more contrast/saturation over time, but it's not as bad as in other autoregressive video models I've seen.
[1] https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1940248521111961988
[2] https://deepmind.google/api/blob/website/media/genie_environ...
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#39First AI thing that’s made me feel a bit of derealization… …and this is the worst the capabilities will ever be. Watching the video created a glimmer of doubt that perhaps my current reality is a future version of myself, or some other consciousness, that’s living its life in an AI hallucinated environment.
The same argument can be used for anything. Personal jetpacks are the worst they’ll ever be. Doesn’t mean they’re any close to being useful.
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#40I wouldn't want to be a hollywood production studio or game developer right now.