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TSMC says employees tried to steal trade secrets on iPhone 18 chip process
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#12Industrial espionage has to be totally insane to defend against these days.
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> groups have to return to more traditional forms of trust (family, religion, creed, etc)
a relevant acronym is MICE (money, ideology, compromise/coercion, ego). Religion would fall under ideology.
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#13Industrial espionage has to be totally insane to defend against these days.
I frequently wonder what steps SpaceX security has to take, given the insane geopolitical significance of reusable rockets and cheap access to orbit.
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#14This article was just the headline repeated in various forms with some generic filler So strange
I love that there is the headline, an intro, a heading for a section about the iPhone 18, and then another heading titled "TSMC says employees tried to steal trade secrets", which is literally a word-for-word substring of the headline.
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> We are doing much better off I’m not making a value judgement. I’m making a prediction about material conditions. > TSMC firing everyone who isn't of the same religion I didn’t say that. But circles of a trust around important information. > it's not hard for a spy to pretend to be . Yes it is.
Can you explain why? I have pretended to be multiple kinds of Christian with success despite being none of them.
Because religious vocabulary, etiquette, and clothing are learned from decades of involvement usually as a small child.
It’s kind of like saying you’re going to pretend to be a different class, but more particular.
> I have pretended to be multiple kinds of Christian with success
I don’t know what context you mean. But I guarantee others can tell you aren’t a member of the group even if Christianity aims to be open in inviting new people.
Another common situation is they recognize you have some connection but can tell you aren’t an active participant.
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> groups have to return to more traditional forms of trust (family, religion, creed, etc) a relevant acronym is MICE (money, ideology, compromise/coercion, ego). Religion would fall under ideology. See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterintelligence
Money and coercion is what corporations have now and it doesn’t work very well because the incentive is to violate it as soon as a better offer comes along.
I’m saying it has to be deeper and more durable.
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#17Industrial espionage has to be totally insane to defend against these days.
I frequently wonder what steps SpaceX security has to take, given the insane geopolitical significance of reusable rockets and cheap access to orbit.
Spacex rocketry tech is subject to ITAR regulations. That restricts who they’re allowed to contract with, data encryption and handling, but altogether those regulations are quite bare. It likely wouldn’t be enough to stop a state actor or rogue employees.
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#18Locally in Taiwan, there’s growing suspicion that the 2nm process technology was leaked to Japan’s Rapidus.
People are questioning whether the technology was leaked to Rapidus through Japanese equipment suppliers.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are doing much better off I’m not making a value judgement. I’m making a prediction about material conditions. > TSMC firing everyone who isn't of the same religion I didn’t say that. But circles of a trust around important information. > it's not hard for a spy to pretend to be . Yes it is.
Can you explain why? I have pretended to be multiple kinds of Christian with success despite being none of them.
Harder to pretend when speaking with colleagues that are the real deal. Also very likely to "step out of line" accidentally over time as lot of time is spent with colleagues.
It's not hard to pretend to be anything for 5 minutes to someone who doesn't know anything about what you're doing.
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I frequently wonder what steps SpaceX security has to take, given the insane geopolitical significance of reusable rockets and cheap access to orbit.
Spacex rocketry tech is subject to ITAR regulations. That restricts who they’re allowed to contract with, data encryption and handling, but altogether those regulations are quite bare. It likely wouldn’t be enough to stop a state actor or rogue employees.
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