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Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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I just searched within the (edit: iOS App Store) App Store app for ublock origin lite “ublock origin lite” For the unquoted search, there are twelve different apps/items returned above it - you really have to scroll down to find it at number 13. Even for the quoted search, it’s returned in fourth place. More interestingly the second time I searched with quoted it’s in third place, and the third time of searching the…

I tried on the mac store.

For the unquoted search, it now comes in 7th for me.

If I just search for ublock, I don't see it at all.

The mac store has long been bad, but this seems worse.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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[EDIT to clarify: here I’m talking about writing a javascript based extension, not a content blocker] That’s not my experience (in the admittedly only browser extension I’ve ever written). After getting it working to my satisfaction in Chrome and Firefox, I created the Safari macOS/iOS versions by running $ xcrun safari-web-extension-converter --bundle-identifier . in my repo. Then I opened xcode, configured the sign…

Interesting. Maybe I tried to do something too complex, I don't remember. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/cre... Here they talk about the "container" that needs to be in Swift/Obj-C. I remember I used to have some problems with the "container" application I think the issue starts to be when you want your extension/app to have any kind of settings that is retained? I don't remember, really.

Yeah, I didn’t go the “Creating a Safari web extension” route, rather I went via “Packaging a web extension for Safari”: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/pac...

I note that they say the command has changed from the one I used, it’s now:

    xcrun safari-web-extension-packager
My extension has storage/settings, and it works fine. I have edited no Swift code at all.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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I just searched for uBlock. Top result is an ad for another ad blocker. Second result is an ad blocker called "Ublock", with "Origin" in its tags; a clear scam whose purpose is to leech off the reputation of uBlock Origin and trick people. Apple's App Store is chock full of scams like this. It's not just bad search, it's a failure to enforce any kind of anti scam policy (combined with seemingly intentionally terrible…

But god forbid you have the word Android somewhere in your app, because they will then reject your update.

> god forbid you have the word Android somewhere in your app

I literally have an app installed on my iPhone called “Android TV” (a remote to control android smart TVs, which I used to have years ago), and it says “Connect to Android TV” in giant header typeface on the app homescreen.

Searching for “Android” on app store brings up even more apps containing that word in the name and in the app, including third-party non-Google apps.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Apple is generally bad at search. For further evidence, see their developer website. To get anything useful out of it, I have to use a custom Google search: https://www.google.com/search?num=100&udm=14&q=site%3Adevelo... Some commenters are presenting a conspiracy theory about how Apple is intentionally sabotaging App Store search, perhaps with the goal of maximizing App Store search ad revenue. I think the empirical…

I agree fully about how they have proven their incompetence, but let’s imagine you are a PM there and you pitch a feature “Fixing App Store search using well-known strategies and techniques” I can’t imagine that especially Tim Cook’s Apple is naive enough to not realize that’s going to dent ad revenue, since most developers have to buy ads directly because of the current flaws. So it seems like that project won’t be…

> most developers have to buy ads directly because of the current flaws.

I wouldn't say it's because of the flaws. It's because of the design: regardless of how well search works, the top hit is always an ad. At best, even with search working perfectly, a search for your own app would return your app as the #2 hit at highest. The search ad system still incentivizes developers to buy ads for searches of their own app, if only as a defensive measure to prevent other developers from inserting their apps at the #1 spot. And Apple makes money, and you pay money, if App Store users click on your own ad for your own app at the #1 spot rather than the "free" search result at the #2 spot.

Oh yeah, and you can't block App Store search ads with an ad blocker. Consider how the App Store is entirely native and has no web-based purchases or downloads.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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But god forbid you have the word Android somewhere in your app, because they will then reject your update.

> god forbid you have the word Android somewhere in your app I literally have an app installed on my iPhone called “Android TV” (a remote to control android smart TVs, which I used to have years ago), and it says “Connect to Android TV” in giant header typeface on the app homescreen. Searching for “Android” on app store brings up even more apps containing that word in the name and in the app, including third-party no…

We have an app for our platform and that app has a news section, we were rejected because we had news about Android devices. We are at this point providing a filtered news list where items with certain keywords are excluded on Apple devices. Maybe it's because of the app category.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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I just searched within the (edit: iOS App Store) App Store app for ublock origin lite “ublock origin lite” For the unquoted search, there are twelve different apps/items returned above it - you really have to scroll down to find it at number 13. Even for the quoted search, it’s returned in fourth place. More interestingly the second time I searched with quoted it’s in third place, and the third time of searching the…

It is mind-boggling, how in this day and age search functions can still be soooo bad in so many places on the web and inside applications. At the very least a 100% substring match should be very visible in the result. If not at the top, then there should be sorting criteria, to make it appear at the top, so that one can sane-ify the search result, when it is not sane. A good example for bad search is the windows star…

>It is mind-boggling, how in this day and age search functions can still be soooo bad in so many places on the web and inside applications.

You mean to say that you think they just somehow forgot to optimize these fundamental things to work well? No.... If the search functionality provided by an otherwise highly capable, ultra-rich tech company is an utter piece of shit, it's intentional. The optimization is elsewhere, while the users are left stuck with a deformed excuse.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Nah I think they’re just bad at search, macOS Spotlight search has to be the most slow janky search I have ever used.

They definitely are bad at search. When I type “safar” into iOS settings, it says “no results for “safar”” while it looks for the fucking built-in browser’s search page.

Weird. I get lots of relevant results with Safari at the top. Which somehow makes it a little worse: I’d naively think we should get identical results.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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I've used Firefox Focus as an ad blocker for Safari on iOS for several years now. I don't actually use it as my browser, I just use Safari as normal, but it integrates with Safari, and seems to work well enough.

Wipr 2. One time payment for macOS and mobile. And it even blocks ads on YouTube (when watched via Safari).

Seconded. It’s so very great! I finally switched off 1Blocker to use it.
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