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Re: Apple Rejects App That Tracks U.S. Drone Strikes

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Post by tripzilch »

enraged_camel wrote: post #149

Unlike most of the posters in this thread, I don't think Apple's rejection of the app is political. Most likely, they want to protect themselves against future legal liability, since there is a risk that the US government (specifically the Department of Defense, or Department of Homeland Security) will question the legality of drone tracking programs if they haven't already.

Interesting point, but if the US gov doesn't want that app in the app store, then Apple could just say "it wasn't us" instead of taking the heat.

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Post by quadhome »

fpgeek wrote: post #182
nivla wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You presented no evidence that Google intends to close off Android source. You are right, but the statement was meant to be more of a what-if situation and not a it is. Either-ways we all can agree that based on the past events that it is not in Google's priority list to keep the open-source community updated: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/googles-decision-to-de... http://www.itworld.com/open-source/164153/…

Every Android device I've ever set up (all the way back to the G1) has a skip button on that same screen. You're free to hit that and never associate a Google account with that device (and get your apps from Amazon, etc.).

The Nexus 7 doesn't.

I was quite surprised when I saw that.

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Post by Create »

iOS privacy app returns as a web app

Bitdefender says that Apple removed the application, which previously was a paid product, from the iOS App Store in June, but hasn't given it a reason for doing so. A potential cause could have been that Clueful tried to auto-detect a user's installed iOS apps so it could then display information about them.

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/iOS-privacy-app-r...

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Post by Steko »

ucee054 wrote: post #212
Steko wrote: post #195

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I'm not missing the point, I'm contesting it. You're assuming the conclusion that the policy is horrid. No, that's what is under debate. I'm fine with the policy of not approving this app. I'm sorry you came here to here a dittohead fest where everyone echo'd your views and didn't get it.

Contesting the point would be to explain why the policy is not horrid, to the people who regard it as censorship and therefore horrid , by addressing the point . You did not do that, you said "Build your own Apple then!". This comment is the closest you ever came to defending the policy, by saying "I'm fine with it". But you're not trying to convince anyone else by providing any information or reasons . Rather, you'r…

I've addressed why it's not horrid all over the place in this thread. The goods that store X sells are not chosen by the public or by committee or by anything else. They are chosen by whoever owns store X. That's how every store works and if store X doesn't want to sell pornography or political merchandise or whatever that's up to them. And if you think Apple is horrid for having the same policy as virtually every other store in history then by equivalence they are all horrid. That's obviously absurd so your claim is false. QED.

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Post by ucee054 »

Steko wrote: post #224
ucee054 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contesting the point would be to explain why the policy is not horrid, to the people who regard it as censorship and therefore horrid , by addressing the point . You did not do that, you said "Build your own Apple then!". This comment is the closest you ever came to defending the policy, by saying "I'm fine with it". But you're not trying to convince anyone else by providing any information or reasons . Rather, you'r…

I've addressed why it's not horrid all over the place in this thread. The goods that store X sells are not chosen by the public or by committee or by anything else. They are chosen by whoever owns store X. That's how every store works and if store X doesn't want to sell pornography or political merchandise or whatever that's up to them. And if you think Apple is horrid for having the same policy as virtually every ot…

No, if Apple's policy is not to sell the drone app, and (let's assume) Google's policy is to sell the drone app, these are not the same policy by definition.

(Therefore you cannot claim that all stores have the same policy. This stuff is high-school level logic and I don't understand why you have difficulty with it.)

In which case I am perfectly free to find Apple's policy horrid, and find the hypothetical Android store policy commendable.

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Post by jcromartie »

mcantelon wrote: post #81
jcromartie wrote: post #27

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The review guidelines have a surprisingly human tone to them.

They certainly do: simultaneously arrogant, condescending and vague.

I didn't say they were friendly. They just don't sound like typical legal boilerplate.

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Post by greedo »

JohnnyBrown wrote: post #189

Apple is literally preventing lifesaving technology from being deployed into the world. Due to this politically-motivated decision, actual real live human beings are being denied a simple tool that could allow them to literally avoid death. If we aren't civilized enough to distinguish between combatants and foreigners (is has been clearly shown that we are not), we could at least have the decency to give the spectato…

Hyperbole much? This isn't a realtime tracking app that shows a drone in flight as it launches a Hellfire missile towards someone on President Obama's hit list...

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Post by loceng »

eevilspock wrote: post #16
loceng wrote: post #9

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If you're in the U.S. or many other countries you aren't in an actual democracy anyway. 1 vote != 1 vote.

I voted up your comment, but can you give me an example of a country that is a democracy by your definition? What is your definition? [Jeez louis... why did this comment get downvoted? Shees!]

Only just saw this. I'm not sure specifically of any countries that are democratic by my definition. An issue that needs to be fixed, if they want to claim to be democratic, is to have proportional representation - so outcomes don't favour larger political groups; In Canada for example, there are many people who would vote for Green party don't, they vote Liberal say the Conservatives don't get more power. People don't feel safe voting for who'd they vote for because their vote won't count. See http://www.fairvote.ca/ ...

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Post by loceng »

bostonpete wrote: post #95
loceng wrote: post #9

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If you're in the U.S. or many other countries you aren't in an actual democracy anyway. 1 vote != 1 vote.

I hate when people cling to this middle school notion that a republic is not a democracy. An indirect democracy is a form of democracy.

Do you understand the difference between proportional representation voting vs. non-PR voting?

"Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives. " - Wikipedia

A republic isn't by default a democracy. Non-PR voting doesn't allow all citizens to have an equal say because their vote doesn't count if they vote for smaller political parties; At minimum it's not taking away seats from other parties, and not showing the genuine support for smaller parties -- and the bigger political parties know this and is why they want to keep the system this way.

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