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Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by sherr »

stephen_g wrote: post #313
zmix wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure, how active development is right now, but EdgeOS got forked from an open source devian based distro after that went commercial. But EdgeOS was not the only fork, another one was VyOS (vyos.io). Pretty sure, that EdgeOS has done larger steps forward, especially, since it was bound to the hardware's developer.

The distribution was called Vyatta. VyOS is now very actively used and developed, it's way ahead of EdgeOS since that's been basically dead for years. EdgeOS was basically just a nice web UI over Vyatta but the one key point was that the EdgeRouters had hardware acceleration (Cavium CPU with offload, but Cavium got acquired by Marvell since) and only EdgeOS has the proprietary binary blob and integration that you nee…

Funnily enough, they've just released an update! Yes, I was taken by surprise a bit.

EdgeRouter 3.0.0 [1] adds official wireguard support (I've been using the "wireguard-vyatta-ubnt" package from Github [2]), UI changes and some other improvements/fixes. I haven't tried it yet but will. I have an Edgerouter3-lite and an ER-X.

[1] https://community.ui.com/releases/EdgeRouter-3-0-0/33ee3852-...

[2] https://github.com/WireGuard/wireguard-vyatta-ubnt

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by [deleted] »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #130
amluto wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My general impression is that it “Just Works” if you don’t do anything remotely interesting with it. Want to create a VLAN with no Internet connectivity? Better test that it actually has no Internet connectivity because the setting doesn’t actually work. Want to use the firewall? Better test all the rules — it’s amazingly buggy. Want to change a WiFi setting without WiFi going down for a minute or two? Good luck — Un…

This was absolutely my experience. I ended up tearing it all out and selling it on eBay. I run OPNsense now with a Ruckus standalone AP, and it has been bulletproof.

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Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by carimura »

thebruce87m wrote: post #27
carimura wrote: post #2

After many (many!) years I finally got around to my childhood dreams of building a home network rack, centered around the Unifi stack. I've got the new 10 gig switch, the dream machine SE, a bunch of cameras, and I've been very impressed with their stuff. The experience "just works" and feels like they take inspiration from Apple. The whole camera setup can be "closed" by shutting off outside access, this self-hostin…

If only the system would cope with power outages I would agree. My viewports refuse to reconnect to the cameras and need multiple forgets/adoptions to come back to life. The (wired) cameras themselves take hours before they show up again, except for the (WiFi) doorbell. During this period I can see the all online via the managed ubiquiti switches.

huh, strange, never had this issue with any of my camera's. takes... a minute to come back online.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by protocolture »

etedor wrote: post #325
protocolture wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab The problem with UBNT isnt that they aren't great for your homelab. They are. The problem with UBNT is people think "Great for my homelab" is the same as "I can run important infrastructure on this" The problem with UBNT/Mikrotik is that people bring homelab level skills to complex infrastructure projects and then make a shocked face wh…

They position themselves as enterprise-ready. See: Unifi Leaf, Spine. They are anything but.

My favourite ubnt story is that a customer purchased one of their radios and deployed it to site, only to find that it would just eat vlan tags. VLans go in, untagged traffic goes out. After proving the issue, they resolved it with beta firmware. For whatever reason, vlan tagging isnt part of their standard test plans during their development cycle. I got to witness this bug be reintroduced 3 more times over the years.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by carimura »

1a527dd5 wrote: post #245
carimura wrote: post #2

After many (many!) years I finally got around to my childhood dreams of building a home network rack, centered around the Unifi stack. I've got the new 10 gig switch, the dream machine SE, a bunch of cameras, and I've been very impressed with their stuff. The experience "just works" and feels like they take inspiration from Apple. The whole camera setup can be "closed" by shutting off outside access, this self-hostin…

> I finally got around to my childhood dreams of building a home network rack My childhood dream was to build crazy buildings, before that it was a space explorer. Not sure a home network rack ever made the list!

ok well technically my original network dream was rows and rows of 14.4k baud modems, so we've come a ways since then.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by stephen_g »

sherr wrote: post #331
stephen_g wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The distribution was called Vyatta. VyOS is now very actively used and developed, it's way ahead of EdgeOS since that's been basically dead for years. EdgeOS was basically just a nice web UI over Vyatta but the one key point was that the EdgeRouters had hardware acceleration (Cavium CPU with offload, but Cavium got acquired by Marvell since) and only EdgeOS has the proprietary binary blob and integration that you nee…

Funnily enough, they've just released an update! Yes, I was taken by surprise a bit. EdgeRouter 3.0.0 [1] adds official wireguard support (I've been using the "wireguard-vyatta-ubnt" package from Github [2]), UI changes and some other improvements/fixes. I haven't tried it yet but will. I have an Edgerouter3-lite and an ER-X. [1] https://community.ui.com/releases/EdgeRouter-3-0-0/33ee3852-... [2] https://github.com/W…

I'm shocked! Literally two years of basically zero activity since the last hotfix release...

The new GUI looks nice and Wireguard is great! Not all good news sadly though, users in the comments there are pointing out that the kernel has hardly been patched from the versions two years ago... At least some packages like OpenSSH, dnsmasq etc. have had updates.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by smartbit »

Aurornis wrote: post #25

You could always self-host UniFi Network. https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012282453-Self-Host... This launches with UniFi Network and UniFi InnerSpace, which is a deployment visualization tool. I assume they'll add more of the applications to UniFi OS in the future

I use this script to install and update UniFi Network [0]. The script is ages old, has been tuned with all kinds of options including acme/letsencrypt, gets updated regularly, very solid. Also installs & upgrades Mongodb.

The self-hosted Unify Network can’t upgrade itself, but it does have a button to verify whether a release is available. I check that option once in a while. When an update is available, I ssh into the VM, execute the latest-release script, answer a few questions and let it do its thing. Done. It even updates the underlying Linux if you wish.

Until bugs in UniFi OS Server get ironed out, this script is highly recommended.

[0] https://community.ui.com/questions/UniFi-Installation-Script...

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by marklyon »

nyarlathotep_ wrote: post #326
psyclobe wrote: post #131

I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…

How's the "management" software? I'm planning on replacing my aging home router (which now seems to randomly drop signal) with something like a Ubiquti Dream Router, but I've no experience with the brand. As of now, I run PfSense at home (just as a hobbyist and for personal desires), and I'm curious how their offering compares, especially wrt to firewall rules, VPN support, etc. From what I've seen it looks far more…

It's wonderful. I run a UCG Max at home to support both my internet needs and camera storage. Run their other gear in several other SMB environments, including a condo where we're using it for office, building automation, and public area networking along with around 80 cameras. Dead simple to understand.

Crosstalk Solutions, MacTelecom Networks, and Lawrence Systems all do youtube videos on UI's gear and setup - may help give you an idea of the experience before you commit to kicking off your addiction.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by nyarlathotep_ »

marklyon wrote: post #338
nyarlathotep_ wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How's the "management" software? I'm planning on replacing my aging home router (which now seems to randomly drop signal) with something like a Ubiquti Dream Router, but I've no experience with the brand. As of now, I run PfSense at home (just as a hobbyist and for personal desires), and I'm curious how their offering compares, especially wrt to firewall rules, VPN support, etc. From what I've seen it looks far more…

It's wonderful. I run a UCG Max at home to support both my internet needs and camera storage. Run their other gear in several other SMB environments, including a condo where we're using it for office, building automation, and public area networking along with around 80 cameras. Dead simple to understand. Crosstalk Solutions, MacTelecom Networks, and Lawrence Systems all do youtube videos on UI's gear and setup - may…

I appreciate the details! I'll check those out.

Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting

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Post by inferiorhuman »

stephen_g wrote: post #313
zmix wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure, how active development is right now, but EdgeOS got forked from an open source devian based distro after that went commercial. But EdgeOS was not the only fork, another one was VyOS (vyos.io). Pretty sure, that EdgeOS has done larger steps forward, especially, since it was bound to the hardware's developer.

The distribution was called Vyatta. VyOS is now very actively used and developed, it's way ahead of EdgeOS since that's been basically dead for years. EdgeOS was basically just a nice web UI over Vyatta but the one key point was that the EdgeRouters had hardware acceleration (Cavium CPU with offload, but Cavium got acquired by Marvell since) and only EdgeOS has the proprietary binary blob and integration that you nee…

   the one key point was that the EdgeRouters had hardware acceleration
The EdgeRouter Lite used a Cavium SoC, the EdgeRouter X family used a 32-bit MediaTek SoC. Hardware acceleration was buggy on both and is/was known to cause packet corruption.

The main problem with the EdgeRouters was that Ubiquiti was basically just assembling off the shelf stuff. They didn't have the ability to fix SoC issues (or motivate the manufacturers to fix them). For years they didn't have the ability to do much Linux dev work either so the ER families languished on an end-of-lifed'd version of Debian. That experience and realization only motivated me to avoid future Ubiquiti products.

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