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Re: World wide wasteland

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You know, I always hated the echo-chamber many blogs became, blogging endlessly about what other people had blogged and not giving any thought to producing original content. I mostly steered clear of twitter, because my impression is it's even worse there. And I don't think I've ever in my life followed a "related stories" link.

In the days of print we managed just fine without pointers to other works. If you were very lucky you got a bucket of citations at the end, but most people skipped right over them. Somehow, we still managed to do discovery.

Are HN/reddit in danger of ceasing to fulfil their discovery functions? Maybe, and maybe we need a better discovery solution. But I don't think peppering our actual content with pointers away from it is the solution.

I've recently moved my blog to the simplest theme I could find. A typical entry has no links, not even to the homepage - I figure by now people have probably learned how to use the back button. Each entry is a simple piece of text that should live or die on its own, just like a newspaper column.

Re: World wide wasteland

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The problem with the utopian vision of the linked web is that links to meaningful content elsewhere on the web die.

In November of 1994, I created a personal web page. I linked the one image (the logo of the university where I intended to go to go to grad school). By March, the link was broken. The school had redone its website.

The world wide web broke the social contract implicit in Gopher. Geocities is no longer online.

Re: World wide wasteland

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post #2

You know, I always hated the echo-chamber many blogs became, blogging endlessly about what other people had blogged and not giving any thought to producing original content. I mostly steered clear of twitter, because my impression is it's even worse there. And I don't think I've ever in my life followed a "related stories" link. In the days of print we managed just fine without pointers to other works. If you were ve…

> Maybe, and maybe we need a better discovery solution. But I don't think peppering our actual content with pointers away from it is the solution.

How can a discovery solution not provide pointers to the thing you're discovering?

Re: World wide wasteland

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The problem with the utopian vision of the linked web is that links to meaningful content elsewhere on the web die. In November of 1994, I created a personal web page. I linked the one image (the logo of the university where I intended to go to go to grad school). By March, the link was broken. The school had redone its website. The world wide web broke the social contract implicit in Gopher. Geocities is no longer o…

This is what HTTP redirects are for:

http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#38...

Re: World wide wasteland

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post #2

You know, I always hated the echo-chamber many blogs became, blogging endlessly about what other people had blogged and not giving any thought to producing original content. I mostly steered clear of twitter, because my impression is it's even worse there. And I don't think I've ever in my life followed a "related stories" link. In the days of print we managed just fine without pointers to other works. If you were ve…

I think the real solution lies somewhere between not doing anything and just mindlessly peppering related articles at the bottom.

Something along the lines of how iA suggests publishers start using twitter[1] - the idea being you should make references to other works as part of your content, rather than an after thought.

I've recently started doing this with my own posts where I will link phrases to other posts (my own or others') that explain the concept in greater detail.

Traditional print does that by way of literary reference. Read any piece of fiction or good journalism and it will likely be peppered with plenty of references to other works. They just won't be something you can click because technology.

[1]http://informationarchitects.net/blog/sweep-the-sleaze/

Re: World wide wasteland

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The problem with the utopian vision of the linked web is that links to meaningful content elsewhere on the web die. In November of 1994, I created a personal web page. I linked the one image (the logo of the university where I intended to go to go to grad school). By March, the link was broken. The school had redone its website. The world wide web broke the social contract implicit in Gopher. Geocities is no longer o…

This reminds me of the words of Tim Berners-Lee: Cool URIs don't change!

http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html

Re: World wide wasteland

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Are links dead?

I actually find myself using links... as they were intended, to link to whatever content I'm blogging about as a service to the reader.

I wonder if the rise of the knowledge graph will save links, where every single noun can be automatically linked to by the AI interpreting it for you.

Re: World wide wasteland

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Google has a hand in this, too. PageRank and derivative algorithms stop making sense when the primary driver of traffic and therefore links is the algorithms themselves. Small differences get wildly exaggerated because whatever shows up first gets all the links, so there if you're a purely cynical actor the best route seems to be to try to write something as it's trendy and pray for a linkstorm miracle.
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