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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by erikerikson »

jghn wrote: post #124
colechristensen wrote: post #117

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My rule for interviews is the company has to spend equal human time or I decline. This means no 8 hour tests, no talking to computers, no special little projects for me to evaluate me. You get equal face time and no more than 45 minutes of me doing anything by myself (that's the max leeway). If you want me to do anything else either I'm getting paid short term contractor rates or making you make a sizable donation to…

I agree with the philosophy although I'll note you're not taking one thing into account. And that is how much human time is spent *reviewing* whatever special little project they assign to you. If the answer is zero, then you're exactly right. However, speaking just for myself as an interviewer, I will generally spend a couple of hours per-candidate reviewing any work samples, etc that are asked of a candidate. If we…

And yet, I can't recall receiving a counter submission of feedback and summary of the review for the work I've submitted, whether I got the job or not.

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Post by hoistbypetard »

crinkly wrote: post #47

I had AI interview recently and I was a little offended considering the level of position so I decided to go off script and complain about the perception it gave them rather than answering the questions. It neatly transcribed this and sent it to an HR drone who actually called me the next day and apologised as it was new technology that they had decided to use. But it turned out the advertised position didn't exist a…

It feels like a missed opportunity. You could have attempted some humorous prompt injection.

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Post by Balgair »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #172
Balgair wrote: post #89

I did one of these once. Once . I felt so bad afterwards that I swore them off forever. It's not like the 'interview' was terrible or anything. I knew it was AI from the start. It was just that when I got done with it, I realized that I had talked at a computer for ~45 minutes. And, yet again, I was going to be ghosted by the company (I was), and that I was never going to get those 45 minutes back. That was time I co…

The key is skin in the game. If a human interviews me, if they're wasting my time, they're also wasting their own. So they have some incentive not to do that. But if an AI interviews me, the humans have no incentive not to waste my time. You want to have an AI interview me? No. It can interview my AI agent if you want, but not me . You want to interview me? Put a human on the line.

> You want to have an AI interview me? No. It can interview my AI agent if you want, but not me.

Great points overall here. But I just want to pause a second and and react to the above portion :

Wow. I really am living in the future.

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Post by newswasboring »

jghn wrote: post #220
newswasboring wrote: post #215

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I hate useless excessive interview processes as much as the next guy, but all the things you've said would be true for any form of interview. You'll not get you time back and you could have been using it in many other ways. The company could still ghost you too. You said nothing which was exclusive to an AI interview.

The problem is now the company has no skin in the game. If the company spent a large amount of time & energy vetting the candidate then it is a more equal transaction.

Yeah but that is true for any form of interview, if there is a leet code problem set it's the same no? So is if they ask you to write a few answers down in a form.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

pydry wrote: post #209
simpaticoder wrote: post #189

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There is an ongoing tension between the idea that our behavior is shaped by the systems around us and the belief that it stems solely from our personal choices. The truth is, it’s never one or the other exclusively - both factors play a role. Nobody says you have to eat processed food, but when 90% of the food available to you (and 100% of the inexpensive food) is processed, it's misleading to argue that eating proce…

It's part of the american capitalist dynamic to protect capital by reframing systemic societal problems to be exclusively issues of personal responsibility. It's largely why Americans are so, so fat compared to other nations.

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Post by vonneumannstan »

pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

>Gotta watch out for those profits, except they forget people also need money to buy their goods.

The end state for this system is the incredibly rich selling things to the other incredibly rich and ignoring everyone else.

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Post by aplummer »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #177
jghn wrote: post #124

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I agree with the philosophy although I'll note you're not taking one thing into account. And that is how much human time is spent *reviewing* whatever special little project they assign to you. If the answer is zero, then you're exactly right. However, speaking just for myself as an interviewer, I will generally spend a couple of hours per-candidate reviewing any work samples, etc that are asked of a candidate. If we…

That's interesting. My expectation was that, if I did a four-hour assignment, they were going to spend 5 minutes evaluating it. I wonder if you are typical, or if typical is closer to my 5 minute impression?

I spend a lot longer than candidates do on themselves if they have open source (or if an internal transfer, internal) code I can review.

50% that I’m terrified of bad hires, 50% I recognize the opportunity and gravity from their side so try to respect that.

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Post by the__alchemist »

throwawayoldie wrote: post #212
the__alchemist wrote: post #206

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This is some I've thought about more lately. It's taboo to use the word "lie" and accuse people of lying... I am attempting to use it in my vocabulary more and more, when appropriate. Which is surprisingly often.

I've noticed the word "bullshit" is making a big comeback, which is encouraging to me. Because, good Lord, is there ever so much bullshit.

Oh that's a good one too!

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Post by [deleted] »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #129
octo888 wrote: post #98

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Pre COVID, IKEA had a lot of decent value stuff (prices were low, relatively better built items too, relative to the other stock). There were also plenty of staff on the tills and on the shop floor to ask questions or get assistance. You genuinely felt they passed on the savings They also had decent online shopping. These days though they're just like everyone else and have cut cut cut and prices have risen. The rest…

> These days though they're just like everyone else and have cut cut cut and prices have risen. The restaurant has gone to crap too Aren't restaurants a totally local thing? They have vastly different offers eg in slovenia compared to italy (i visit both quite often), except for maybe hotdogs and cinnabuns... somehow the main ikea prices are different too.

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