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Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by ants_everywhere »

Molitor5901 wrote: post #10

I get the concern bout Palantir but this is not new: Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, AWS, have all been extending their reach into government for over a decade. Palantir is the boogey man right now, and it's under a lot of scrutiny because of its work and its political ties, but let's try turning some of the ire to all of the other tech companies empowering the government against people. The others shouldn't get a pa…

Palantir is unique in that one of its founders has publicly stated he doesn't believe in democracy, the bedrock of the American system.

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by tylerchilds »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #11
Molitor5901 wrote: post #10

I get the concern bout Palantir but this is not new: Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, AWS, have all been extending their reach into government for over a decade. Palantir is the boogey man right now, and it's under a lot of scrutiny because of its work and its political ties, but let's try turning some of the ire to all of the other tech companies empowering the government against people. The others shouldn't get a pa…

Palantir is unique in that one of its founders has publicly stated he doesn't believe in democracy, the bedrock of the American system.

definition of treason?

definition of treason.

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by grafmax »

I wonder if the VCs have given up on growth. AI isn’t really profitable. Unless you can get government to pay for it (“socialism for me, capitalism for thee”). That means military contracts. So we have a top heavy system with a perverse incentive to justify itself with war. Unsurprisingly, I guess, the US is gearing up to do just that in 2027 with China.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #11
Molitor5901 wrote: post #10

I get the concern bout Palantir but this is not new: Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, AWS, have all been extending their reach into government for over a decade. Palantir is the boogey man right now, and it's under a lot of scrutiny because of its work and its political ties, but let's try turning some of the ire to all of the other tech companies empowering the government against people. The others shouldn't get a pa…

Palantir is unique in that one of its founders has publicly stated he doesn't believe in democracy, the bedrock of the American system.

Its really easy to read this and be scared without being given any context, not everyone in the room knows who you are referring to and if your reading of their remarks are accurate.

You got a name and a raw source?

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by Alifatisk »

baal80spam wrote: post #5
Bombthecat wrote: post #4

Pretty sure it's just the beginning. Palantir Will be the dystopian super company you see in sci-fi movies

Time to buy?

Their stock has tripled since november, they are way to overvalued. Either way I would not put my money on their stock, I do not want to support such company. Vote with your wallet.

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by rPlayer6554 »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #11
Molitor5901 wrote: post #10

I get the concern bout Palantir but this is not new: Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, AWS, have all been extending their reach into government for over a decade. Palantir is the boogey man right now, and it's under a lot of scrutiny because of its work and its political ties, but let's try turning some of the ire to all of the other tech companies empowering the government against people. The others shouldn't get a pa…

Palantir is unique in that one of its founders has publicly stated he doesn't believe in democracy, the bedrock of the American system.

Source?

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by yosito »

ants_everywhere wrote: post #11
Molitor5901 wrote: post #10

I get the concern bout Palantir but this is not new: Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, AWS, have all been extending their reach into government for over a decade. Palantir is the boogey man right now, and it's under a lot of scrutiny because of its work and its political ties, but let's try turning some of the ire to all of the other tech companies empowering the government against people. The others shouldn't get a pa…

Palantir is unique in that one of its founders has publicly stated he doesn't believe in democracy, the bedrock of the American system.

To be fair, I'm not sure there are very many people who believe in US democracy right now.

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by ants_everywhere »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #14
ants_everywhere wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Palantir is unique in that one of its founders has publicly stated he doesn't believe in democracy, the bedrock of the American system.

Its really easy to read this and be scared without being given any context, not everyone in the room knows who you are referring to and if your reading of their remarks are accurate. You got a name and a raw source?

Peter Thiel. He says "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible."

The beginning of the essay

> I remain committed to the faith of my teenage years: to authentic human freedom as a precondition for the highest good. I stand against confiscatory taxes, totalitarian collectives, and the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual. For all these reasons, I still call myself “libertarian.”

> But I must confess that over the last two decades, I have changed radically on the question of how to achieve these goals. Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible. By tracing out the development of my thinking, I hope to frame some of the challenges faced by all classical liberals today.

The full essay https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio...

Re: Palantir is extending its reach even further into government

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Post by QuadmasterXLII »

newsclues wrote: post #8

If government doesn’t want to be replaced by corporations, then government has to not suck so hard.

Rule of thumb: If a corporation mostly sells to consumers or other corporations, the government can save a lot of money and get a great result by buying from it at consumer prices. If a corporation mostly sells to the government, the government can steal every last taxpayer penny while delivering shit by buying from the corporation at government prices.

See for example (and yes I’d get cancelled for pointing this out) govt purchasing from ULA vs govt purchasing from SpaceX

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