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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by nikolayasdf123 »

yetihehe wrote: post #13
Mordisquitos wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same thought. The CEO of Braintrust, a company that offers AI interviewers, is quoted as saying “The truth is, if you want a job, you’re gonna go through this thing,” . Let's see how they react to the founding of 'Trainbust', a company offering AI interviewees to respond to AI interviewers. The truth is, if they want to use AI interviewers, they’re gonna have to go through this thing.

> It should be noted that not all AI interviewers are created equal—there’s a wide range of AI interviewers entering the market. Maybe someone will make an AI to interview the AI interviewers and see which one is the best? AI's interviewing human candidates gonna have to go through this thing.

nice idea actually. this might be happenign already

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Post by 9rx »

pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

> except they forget people also need money to buy their goods.

Do they? Money is simply the accounting of debt. You do something for me, and when I can't immediately do something in return for you, you extend a loan to me so that I can make good on my side of the bargain later. If we record that I owe you something at some point in the future, we just created money!

But if I don't need anything from you — because, say, magical AIs are already giving me everything I could ever hope and dream of — I have no reason to become indebted to you. Money only matters in a world where: You want/need people to do things for you, they won't do something for you without a favour returned in kind, and you cannot immediately return the favour.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by nikolayasdf123 »

pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

> except they forget people also need money to buy their goods.

this is why we having population collapse

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by pydry »

ekianjo wrote: post #21
pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

on one hand people complain about sweatshops but on the other hand when the repetitive, soul crushing, low paid job is replaced by technology people complain as well. you can't have it both ways.

The people telling us that sweatshops are a necessary thing are the same people telling all of us that we will be replaced by a robot shortly.

They're the same people that will proclaim that the sky will fall if you raise the retirement age due to a shortage of labor.

Their stories are not consistent, and all they really care about is the value of their stock portfolio.

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Post by yogsototh »

Garlef wrote: post #5

Maybe we can get a counter-AI that does the AI interview for us?

I think this already exists and there are lot of them. Regarding stealth AI interview, there are many existing products.

Mainly they listen to the interview, and write down answers in an overlay for you to repeat. They ace leet code, etc...

I guess this is already pretty close.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by pjmlp »

9rx wrote: post #52
pjmlp wrote: post #4

It is all almost making richer even more richer, instead of properly hiring people for HR, AI bots. Instead of having more people at the supermarket, have the customers work as if they were employees, the only thing missing is fetching stuff from warehouse when missing on the shelves, but still pay the same or more. Instead of paying to artists, do job ads using generated AI images with code magically showing off mon…

> except they forget people also need money to buy their goods. Do they? Money is simply the accounting of debt. You do something for me, and when I can't immediately do something in return for you, you extend a loan to me so that I can make good on my side of the bargain later. If we record that I owe you something at some point in the future, we just created money! But if I don't need anything from you — because, s…

Direct trading kind of died out towards the end of middle age, are we supposed to go back in time?

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by glimshe »

I don't know how to solve this in the current environment. A hiring manager friend said he's getting unprecedented number of application for a software engineering role.

Ultimately applicants will endure whatever companies put in front of them with a job market that is this bad.

If the government made this illegal companies would come out with ever increasingly silly filters, such as demanding specific college degrees, handwritten applications by snail Mail etc.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by 9rx »

pjmlp wrote: post #57
9rx wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> except they forget people also need money to buy their goods. Do they? Money is simply the accounting of debt. You do something for me, and when I can't immediately do something in return for you, you extend a loan to me so that I can make good on my side of the bargain later. If we record that I owe you something at some point in the future, we just created money! But if I don't need anything from you — because, s…

Direct trading kind of died out towards the end of middle age, are we supposed to go back in time?

No, why?

If people still want other people to do things for them, accounting isn't going anywhere. It has already been invented. We don't have to un-invent it. But, if this our future, then humans remain relevant, so there is no concern about job loss or anything of that nature.

If, however, some future plays out where people aren't needed to work anymore, there will simply be no need for trade. The magical AIs, or whatever it is that someone has dreamt up that they think will eliminate the need to hire people, will provide instead. You only need people to buy things from you if you need to buy things from them as well.

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