I own a host of Unifi hardware, but some of it is ridiculously vulnerable to power outages. UDM SE got bricked when I was moving and absentmindedly unplugged it without shutting it down first. Ubiquiti replaced it but cmon...
Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
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Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing about the UniFi platform is it iteratively improves. Years ago you couldn’t manage NAT rules or DNS from the GUI, though there were workarounds to modify iptables at the command line and preserve customization across upgrades. Now days, static routes, SNAT/DNAT, and DNS are all in the management interface. So.. things improve, and every time I’m back using EdgeRouters, Extreme, or Juniper elements I miss th…
> The thing about the UniFi platform is it iteratively improves. That's a very charitable and positive spin on "was expensive the day you bought it and got all the functionality you expected years later". I'm fine with things getting better over time. I am a lot less understanding when you ship a device in 2024 and it still has trash IPv6 support but don't worry because "we'll fix it via an update coming soon!" That…
Well, that’s kind of how I write software so I can’t cast stones.
I would agree with the desire for full feature sets out of the gate, but UniFi stack is hardly expensive. Further, you know the balance of limitations and advantages when you opt to purchase it instead of more traditional mainstays with decades of compounding feature buildout.
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#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
> TP-Link is less expensive and better performance. WiFi 7 and 10gbit for less money. Thanks, they really seem like good alternative.
Not sure, how active development is right now, but EdgeOS got forked from an open source devian based distro after that went commercial. But EdgeOS was not the only fork, another one was VyOS (vyos.io). Pretty sure, that EdgeOS has done larger steps forward, especially, since it was bound to the hardware's developer.
The distribution was called Vyatta. VyOS is now very actively used and developed, it's way ahead of EdgeOS since that's been basically dead for years. EdgeOS was basically just a nice web UI over Vyatta but the one key point was that the EdgeRouters had hardware acceleration (Cavium CPU with offload, but Cavium got acquired by Marvell since) and only EdgeOS has the proprietary binary blob and integration that you need to use that on the EdgeRouter hardware.
So even though VyOS exists as the modern day Vyatta fork that is active and fully-featured, you can't really run it on the EdgeRouter hardware and since Ubiquiti stopped development, they're basically e-waste.
I still run one in a network but really shouldn't, since Ubiquiti are very rarely shipping security updates...
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
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Maybe if one doesn't actually understand networking nomenclature or interop, sure. After owning a few EdgeRouter X models I can safely say that the whole lineup a was half baked proof of concept at best. Ubiquiti used two different chipsets in the EdgeRouter lineup, both had data corruption issues with hardware acceleration that Ubiquiti couldn't fix… because they simply cobbled together some open source projects and…
Have to agree. I've tried multiple times to replace my. edison FiOS router with different Edgerouters and none of them have been able to compare to the Gigabit speeds I get with the Verizon router. I'm not even using wifi, just want a simple router with a firewall and port forwarding that can compare to my $12/mo one from Verizon. I troubleshooted each for a eeek tweaking hardware acceleration and other knobs, but th…
Weird. I got sustained symmetric gigabit speed out of an EdgeRouter Lite when it was loaded with a basic firewall and some port forwarding. At the time I purchased it, the thing cost about ten months of your ISP-provided equipment rental.
Maybe the later EdgeRouters are total trash, but the ERL could (and did) totally handle what you're describing.
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
My general impression is that it “Just Works” if you don’t do anything remotely interesting with it. Want to create a VLAN with no Internet connectivity? Better test that it actually has no Internet connectivity because the setting doesn’t actually work. Want to use the firewall? Better test all the rules — it’s amazingly buggy. Want to change a WiFi setting without WiFi going down for a minute or two? Good luck — Un…
Most people don't want to do anything 'interesting'. If you stray too far from the beaten path, I'd argue that you no longer need or something that "Just Works". You need something very configurable, which, by definition, will let you shoot yourself in the foot. My current setup is Mikrotik for wired and Ubiquity APs for wifi. Their wifi devices have great specs and are difficult to beat. Mikrotik has decent wifi dev…
Because Wi-Fi going down for a minute or two doesn’t matter in most deployments. And when it does… you submit a change ticket and not just Yoo-hoo a change in production.
Reading this thread I’ve been using unifi equipment for over a decade why are people tinkering with their networks on a daily basis?
I have more issues with enterprise equipment than with unifi equipment because it just works, and it’s 1/5th of the price, and I can buy a replacement the same day. My spf modules on junipers cost more than most of the products in the entire unifi catalog and can’t support being downlinked to 1GB on one port without the whole module being set 1gb and the entire core rebooted.
The amount of hate is simply unwarranted, people are afraid to patch enterprise switches because historically that meant driving out and a call with TAC, when did we start pretending that enterprise network equipment works flawlessly?
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
I still use their access points because it's hard to get anything else as good for the same kind of price, but they burned me killing the development on EdgeRouter. So I've gone elsewhere for cameras, switching and routing. This release is a nice point in their favour though but I can't see myself going back all in on Ubiquiti.
They just released v3.0.0 of the EdgeRouter software three days ago. https://community.ui.com/releases/EdgeRouter-3-0-0/33ee3852-... But yeah they haven't released any new hardware in quite a long time. But nice to see they are still doing development work on the software.
Woah...that's surprising.
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#317> Next, we need to log in with our Ubiquiti account. Right. They don't learn. > You can also proceed without an Ubiquiti account Can you? Or you have to make one and only then maybe possibly to some extent run the thing without one?
Nothing in the Ubiquiti ecosystem requires you to use the cloud. Even fully air-gapped setups are supported.
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#318What is the use case for this? Their cloud gateways are very affordable. Aside from the academic aspects of it I don’t see why I would want to run a home brew version of their cloud gateway.
Multi-site centralized management if you don't want to use Ubiquiti's cloud. UI has an entire lineup of non-Cloud gateways.
This is also for setups without an Ubiquiti gateway. Like a setup with just UI switches or APs.
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#319I have nothing but good things to say about ubiquiti. I run their cameras door bell and network switches at my house and have had nearly 100% uptime for years. Their ui constantly improves and it’s very well integrated into home assistant. Lotta haters out there but this is just advanced as I want to get in my home lab; and the racks are just so cool even with their gimmicky front touch panel, it’s just so sexy when…
I just think £360 for an IP camera is too steep, half would be a no brainier over ring. Their new Lite switches replace stuff that was rack-mountable, not there's no ears are far as I can tell. The gateways are awesome value.
You have to get pretty high in their product range before you hit £360 for a camera. The G3 Instant is probably the closest to a Ring competitor (Wifi, 2K video) and it's £78.
The £360 camera is the G5 Pro, which is a 4K camera with 3X optical zoom. I'm not aware of any Ring camera with optical zoom. If you don't need the zoom, the G6 Bullet is a 4K camera without zoom for £190, and the G5 Bullet is 2K for £126. As far as I know, Ring's highest resolution camera is 2K.
But Unifi isn't really trying to be a Ring competitor -- Ring caters to home users with little knowledge of networking, Unifi is more for small businesses (who use an integrator to install their system) or prosumers with more advanced network knowledge.
Re: Ubiquiti launches UniFi OS Server for self-hosting
#320I love the idea of centrally managing network infrastructure that can be ‘self-contained’ in a local service (whether a device, VM, or container). TP-Link offers a similar solution via their ‘Omada’-enabled devices. Unfortunately, mixing different brands can feel counterproductive, so there’s significant vendor lock-in. Does anyone know of a similar solution for OpenWrt devices?
Self answering here: Seems like OpenWisp[1] is what I was looking for. I haven't used it yet, but I'm adding it to my bucketlist (currently using Omada, but a bit dissapointed with the sluginess) [1] https://openwisp.org/
> Seems like OpenWisp[1] is what I was looking for.
When I last looked into openWISP, it was a pretty good effort but has a very hard dependency on openWRT. If your entire network is not made up of hardware that has "good/stable" openWRT support then you're going to have a bad time.
I don't think there are any 10g switches that run openWRT well yet, for example. [0]
[0]: Yes, I know openWRT runs on amd/intel but those devices have a few NICs at most. There are no 48 port 1/10gig switches that run openWRT as far as I know...